frontroomautos Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 i realise there can be no straight forward answer exactly to my question, but i am looking to venture onto a newish trials bike after riding mostly old bikes like my Honda TLR200. I am looking to purchase a near new 2nd hand bike and am looking to purchase the bike on its quality and durability, i realise that you can not really directly pitch 4 st againt 2 st in terms of what is better but i have only ever owned 4 stroke trials bikes that some might consider antiquated today & of course they are in direct comparison with modern bikes. I would like to know really how bad is maintainance (Re rebores etc...) on the average modern 2 stroke compaired to say that of the Mont 4RT, Is the 4RT quite high maintainance to what i am use to (disregarding the cost of the bike of course)? I realise this is probablly a perhaps a daft question to the well experienced among you but i have only really riden recreationally and believe it or not have never owned a 2 stroke bike of any sort so have no idea about the durability although i know they are easier to work on when they need it. Finally then in either case 2 or 4 could anyone point me towards the best known bikes for quality of build, I have around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4it Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 In my poinion the best built and most reliable four stroke is the montesa . The best built two stroke is the beta ,they are very easy to maintain aswell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydw Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Having ridden a variety of bikes over the last few years - Montesa 315r 2001 - 2004 all models beta rev 3 2005, gas gas 2006, montesa 4rt 2006 still on I can confirm that the montesa's are the easiest to maintain - airfilter and carb as and when, amongst oiling chain and general checks on 315r on 4rt, oil changes and also airfilters plus usual checks - other than that not had to lay a single spanner on them. They are a bit more money to buy, but will save you more on spares and fettlin over the length of ownership. They also hold there money much better over time. Spares are available next day from sandifords. Of the bikes mentioned above i took all of them (apart from the gas gas) round the ssdt, and they all went round no problems at all!!!! PS i have a good 2006 4rt for sale - only done two trials - mint! e-mail me for further details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I've tried all of the five top contenders over the last 10 years and the onlyone that ever let me down through machine failure was the '04 Beta. The stator went... twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybaines Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Obviously I may be slightly biased so you`d be better off trying a few for riding style comparisons but I have heard a lot of people comment on the strength of the build quality of the Beta and Montesa over any of the other makes about. I for one can vouch for the Beta mine gets a serious pounding and have never had any real issues with it. Alright i`ve knackered two front wheels in two weeks but i`d guess that the rims are the same throughout most makes. Maintainance wise as long as you have some basic mechanical knowledge a 2 stroke trials machine should last bloody ages before any re-bore/re-plate is required. Look after the machine and it will return you with a lengthy service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frontroomautos Posted August 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Thanks all of you who have posted your thoughts on the various model options i cant help being driven towards the Mont 4rt but as i am new to trials in any serious way i appreciate all the tips you all gave, I'll try a couple of models including the Beta and would even consider a 315 if it was a nice example. I had nearly bought a new one a couple of years ago and regret i will never get the opportunity to do that now. At the time i opted for a TLR200 as i thought it was alot cheaper but alas it was allot dearer by the time i got carried away with rebuilding it. Nice it is but i wish i had done things differently now but ive learnt. Cheers All Oh and boydw thanks for the offer of the 4RT i need a little time to look into things a little further but i am interested but wont make any promises yet of course but if you want to e mail me the pics of your bike i would be interested to see them and maybe if you still have it by the time ive come to a conclusion ill be in contact. My e mail address is damagedtwo@msn.com. Regards Andrew/frontroomautos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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