balamory beta Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 When i was last out on my bike the chain tensioner got wrappped round the back sprocket and the bolt and spring were lost, so i decided to order a new kit. And after fitting the bolt will not tighten and now fear the same will happen again I reilise the thread is stripped in rear swing arm. Is this a common fault for 06 betas? Any ideas on how to fix this problem would be greatley received cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 The thread is very short on the bolt and not very strong, had this happen on my 04 due to taking it off too much to regrease it. Only take it off a few times a year and dont be tempted to tighten it too much or it will strip the thread, only option I can think of is a helicoil like mine, local garage may be able to do it for you for a few quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezza Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 As per betarev3's reply re heli-coil, but would take to a specialist engineering firm who are more likely to have the appropriate engineering facilities to carry out the work. Local garage=bodge it * * This is just my personal opinion based on past experiences and no offence is intended to any "local garages" who may offer exceptional service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin j Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Helicoil is pretty straightforward to install, for the owner, certainly for any garage. Here, Grainger has the kits for about $40 US. which includes drill, special tap, tool, and 10 inserts. You can practice a few times if uneasy about tackling it. I have several sizes, as invariably the next thread to strip is a differnt size, can't make use of the 9 extra unused inserts in the other kit.... They are a great product though, and worth the money. kcj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Best solution is to remove it. Quite a few people run without it anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timp Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Best solution is to remove it. Quite a few people run without it anyhow. Let me get this right. You are saying run without the chain tensioner? Braver man than me.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpatensing Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 The late Beamish Suzukis never had tensioners from new. My 1980 RL325 rides fine without one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Best solution is to remove it. Quite a few people run without it anyhow. Be careful if you are going to try this. I'd make a bet that you will either loose the chain off the back sprocket because it becomes too loose on maximum deflection or you will damage the gearbox because it is too tight on maximum compression. It is true that not all bikes have chain tensioners but they are fitted for a very good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregkabob Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) Had the same thing happen on my 02 270. I had to get a right angle drill and short bit to drill it out and then tap it and put the heli coil in. This was the first time I had ever put in a heli coil and the whole job was quite easy once I had the right tool to drill it out. Edited December 7, 2006 by gregkabob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balamory beta Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Thanks guys. A helicoil it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Let us know how it goes. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balamory beta Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Cheers, will do got two weeks off after christmas to tackel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Best solution is to remove it. Quite a few people run without it anyhow. As the previous posts said I would also strongly advise not to run without one. Modern bikes run a lot more travel on the rear than the Beamish Suzuki mentioned in a different post. It is vital that the chain has enough free play. If you were to wedge against a rock the chain will be forced off and there needs to be sufficient free play to allow it to do so. Too tight and at best the chain may snap. At worst, gearbox, swinging arm, hub...... you get the picture! If adjusted to allow sufficient free play though the chain will flap about like crazy and will probably flick off all the time. Please be careful what advice you offer on these forums. I appreciate you offered the advice with the best intentions but remember........ "Sometimes it is better to say nothing and be thought of an idiot than to open your mouth and have it proved beyond all doubt" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essex rider Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Please be careful what advice you offer on these forums. I appreciate you offered the advice with the best intentions but remember........"Sometimes it is better to say nothing and be thought of an idiot than to open your mouth and have it proved beyond all doubt" I may never speak again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motojojo Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Just a dumb ? since I don't own a Beta, but can you drill and tap for a bigger bolt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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