the addict Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Neon, whip the swing arm out mate, it will save hours of pain and torment and could well put you off trials forever. It was assembled before the swing arm went in and even the best BFH wont get it out in one piece, if your at it after 4 hours they may have to section you, you'll be a dribbling wreck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezza Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 back wheel out = 1min rear caliper hose clips removed = 1min bottom shock bolt out =1min chain tensioner bolt out =1min swingarm bolt out =1min tool selection and placement of removed parts =5min access to brake pedal removal achieved =10mins=A Time spent trying to remove brake pedal sans above = B Time spent scratching head/rubbing chin/making tea whilst thinking problem through = C Time to clean removed parts/inspect/regrease/loctite/replace = D Neon, if A+D < B+C then admit defeat. Satisfaction of rebuilding bike knowing everything is nicely greased and necessary parts loctited.......priceless. The above mathmatical equation was derived after many unsuccessful attempts to cheat motorcycle/mechanical physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinell Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Classy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) back wheel out = 1minrear caliper hose clips removed = 1min bottom shock bolt out =1min chain tensioner bolt out =1min swingarm bolt out =1min tool selection and placement of removed parts =5min access to brake pedal removal achieved =10mins=A Time spent trying to remove brake pedal sans above = B Time spent scratching head/rubbing chin/making tea whilst thinking problem through = C Time to clean removed parts/inspect/regrease/loctite/replace = D Neon, if A+D < B+C then admit defeat. Satisfaction of rebuilding bike knowing everything is nicely greased and necessary parts loctited.......priceless. The above mathmatical equation was derived after many unsuccessful attempts to cheat motorcycle/mechanical physics. I like it. Years ago my apprentice master told me to take the carpet out of an Orion before welding up the outer sill. I didn't bother... what a waste of time, I'll make a fortune by leaving it in and just booking the time to the customer, I planned. The excess on the insurance claim was more than the cost of the whole job Edited December 17, 2006 by scorpa3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seandellear Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Oh got it Thanks! What a tard!lol Its an acronym!lol Cheers for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonsurge Posted December 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Damn you all and your carefully thought-out, sensible suggestions. I'm araid that's just not how things are done around here - no job's finished until blood has been drawn and swears have been sworn. Maybe I just need a VBFH. Or I could just do the sensible thing and remove the swingarm. I'll see how I feel in the morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betabonkers Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Neon im telling you dont listen to them, i done mine on my 06 and only took the chain off, it can be done, no blood whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideup Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) Not one to ever give advice..... The first time I took one off, I had the chain off and still couldn't get it out. I thought no way, they had to design this pedal to replace without taking the swingarm off. Just think if you broke one during a trials. It was like one of those metal puzzles. I wiggled the pedal in every direction possible. Getting mad and in disbelief that I could not get it out, it magically fell into the slot machined in the frame, slid out the back and fell on the ground. Reassembly kind of the same technic. Like one of those puzzles, can't say I can repeat the procedure. I will memorize the Jezza formula just in case. Edited December 17, 2006 by sideup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arun1664 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Oh got it Thanks! What a tard!lol Its an acronym!lol Cheers for that Actually its an abreviation. Now is it the society of pedants or the pedants society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seandellear Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Im not sure what either of those are! so don't ask me!lol I thought an abbreviation was shortening a word like information-info.? And an acronym was something like bsa-bl$$dy sore a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I must say that I would have described BFH as being a TLA myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregkabob Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I too have to take the brake pedal off and have read all the advise. I bent mine (don't know which rock I hooked it on). My question is: Do I straighten it with a BFH (see I learned some new terms) or should I heat it up a bit to get it straight? Trying to remember if you heat metal up and let it cool slowly it will be softer andn if you heat and quench it is stronger....or is it the other way around? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Warming the brake pedal up won't do any harm providing you don't melt it. But.... Alloy doesn't react the same as steel to being heated, so don't expect it to suddenly become soft and maleable. There is a good chance that, even warm, the alloy will crack, it's just a case of try it and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arun1664 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Put some liquid soap on the part, heat till the soap goes black, its ready to be straightened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seandellear Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Cheers for the tip arun will keep that one in mind next time I work with ally!lol great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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