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Front Mudguard Stays ? Which Ones To Use?


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The "project" is slowly coming on, far too slowly to tell the truth, and i am now looking for some front mudguard stays. Now in the "good old days" you just went down to your local trials shop and sorted through the mudguard stays they had on the shelf and found a set that fitted or were close enough to be made to fit.

Those halcyon day are long gone. Nobody seems to stock anything nowadays just "will order it for you". thats ok i suppose if you are wanting std bits for a std bike but when building a pre 65 "special" it just aint that easy.

The bike has Norton Commando sliders and i was thinking of trying eithe TL125 or TY175 stays as they look sort of what i am looking for after perusing Millars catalogue. Problem is there are no diamensions in the catalogue and when i phoned they were their usual "helpful selves" :wacko:

So does anybody know any diamensions for either of the above stays? My forks are about 108mm between slider mounting holes which are M8 and 35mm centers. The top of the "hoop" on the inside i.e. the mudguard needs to be approx 165 mm from the mounting hole centers.

Obviously i doubt if i will get anything spot on but will have to modify whatever i can get.

So any suggestions please? :wacko:

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Thats the thing John i dont know if the Commando sliders, mine are the ones off a disc braked Commando as they were what i had lying around, are longer or shorter than the Norton Roadholders. I know there are long and short Roadholders.

I've seen the alloy ones for Norton sliders on offer on e bay but again there are no diamensions quoted and i dont want to get some only to find that they are miles out and i will have wasted my money.

Only other alternative is to take the vernier along to the next trial.

If not then the Classic off road show is on at Malvern on 17th Feb so hopefully there will be some traders who have some i can measure up.

Just wondered if anybody had any TL or TY ones fitted and had any diamensions.

Thanks for the reply anyway BJ

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Don't know if this is any use to you but I've attached a picture of a TY250 twinshock stay (presumably a Miller one) that came off my Majesty.

Distance between the mounting holes front to back (ie; on one leg) is 10cm centre to centre. Width of the stay is almost 12cm (measured accross the bolt holes from the outside edge of the bracket that contacts with the lugs on the fork leg) Measured with a ruler and the bracket has pulled a bit but close enough for what you need I would think.

Hope this helps

Won't let me upload the picture for some reason so I'll add it later when sorted out.

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Thanks for the picture woody and the link totalshell. I really am struggling with this and it's bugging me. The stay that Woody shows is the sort of thing i am looking for but it's too wide between the fork legs as the legs on my bike are only 4 1/4" from face to face.

The link from totalshell is good but the brackets are fine for BSA type forks but not Norton Commando. going to look at some this weekend but they are in ally and i dont know if they will have a flex issue in use. Tried to bend some from 10mm tube at the weekend but no good.

If all else fails i will have a look around the Classic twinshock show at Malvern, it's only about 3 weeks away.

Thanks again for the help and advice guys :beer:

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