cota kid Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 (edited) Someone else advised me of this fact and I have shamelessly nicked it. (Yes I was wrong it was 41 years and not 31. My excuse is I wasn't born when a 4 stroke last won the SSDT before Dib's overwhelming victory). Dibs win on the Future Trials Racing Montesa is the first four stroke to win the SSDT for 41 years. Well done Dibs and well done Montesa. Edited May 18, 2007 by Cota Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsurfer Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 How did the other 4 strokes fare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnq Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Someone else advised me of this fact and I have shamelessly nicked it.Dibs win on the Future Trials Racing Montesa is the first four stroke to win the SSDT for 31 years. Well done Dibs and well done Montesa. well done to Dibs and all the support crew,but I think a massive credit to alexz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw dave Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 According to the Provisional Results Jarvis got third on the all new revamped Sherco 4T and Jordi Pascuet got fourth on the all new Beta 4T - Jarvis lost the tie break for second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 This year, A fourstroke wins the Indoor WTC and now the SSDT and one is likely to win the outdoor WTC too. Fourstrokes are Back Disclaimer - Obviously, the riders on them have to be pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw dave Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Congrats to all the riders, but the top twenty were mostly two strokes, and I wager that Jarvis would have won if he had been on his 290. - The Four stroke thing is all political. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cota kid Posted May 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 (edited) Congrats to all the riders, but the top twenty were mostly two strokes, and I wager that Jarvis would have won if he had been on his 290. - The Four stroke thing is all political. Can you enlighten me as to how you can prove that Jarvis would have won the 2007 SSDT if he was on a 2 stroke? Can you travel through time and alter history? Edited May 13, 2007 by Cota Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Congrats to all the riders, but the top twenty were mostly two strokes, and I wager that Jarvis would have won if he had been on his 290. - The Four stroke thing is all political. Have you spoken to Jarvis and has he stated that? If you haven't then your statement is impossible to qualify in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Dom/Atom i'm with the outlaw on this one, the evidence of those there that the Sherco 4t was suspect in the conditions on the Monday when jarvis lost 18, is pretty near the mark. Possibly I accept early number versus dibs late one, but this is all academic and not provable either way. What is imprtant is DIBS WON!!!! This heralds in the "new era" who knows what might have been it matters not, but with Michael Brown second equal and Alexz thereabouts these 3 are going to give us something special in the next few years, of that I'm sure. Would anyone bet against a win for these boys in the TDN 2009? And really isn't it time the ACU used the talent and experience of Jarvis Colley and of course Doug got these together and do something with the talent we have now? (Sorry didn't want to hijack thread) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for artie Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 The young Brits are impressive.Look out Spain !!! Three four strokes in the top four. and they were from 3 different manufacturers. Why are the four strokes political? I thought they were motorcycles and I like all motorcycles. Artie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cota kid Posted May 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Would of, could of, should have. Jarvis or Sherco made the decision for him to ride the 4 stroke and it didn't pay off, bleating about Jarvis winning it if he was on a 2 stroke are totally and utterly pointless. Lets concentrate on the fact that Dabill beat all the opposition regardless of whether or not they are 2 stroke, 4 stroke or even back stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windlestone Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 The difference between the Montesa 4RT's and everything else on Monday in Scotland, IMHO, 2 stroke or 4 stroke. Montesa has no carburettor to fill with water, the water levels rose so quickly on Monday it was unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fracy Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Awfully touchy now aren't we boys!!!!! I believe Outlaw Dave's statement was an opinion, one that would be shared by more than a few I'm sure due to the fact that the Sherco 4T has been suspect in the past with some teeting problems. As well, Grimbo's limited time spent on it before the SSDT.(Yes I know he's riding the BC on it too). The political issue is an easy one. In case you didn't know, all these four strokes started appearing when the FIM informed us that the manufacturer's will be legislated to produce and rider's only compete on 4strokes..............a political mandate with a target date (which has since been changed twice). Don't get me wrong, I would love to own a 4stroke. But I think it is detremental to the sport to mandate these bikes into production and then the factories have to charge considerably more money than the 2strokes which have nothing wrong with them, mechanically or enviromentally. steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Not sure on the Jarvis thing. we marked out some pretty tuff stuff at St Davids and a lot of it was big grippy stuff that you would think would favour the 2 strokes. Jarvis was convincing there so I think he has the hang of the 4 stroke???? To equal out 2 and 4 strokes (and maybe make trials ridding cheaper) why don't we have a minimum weight limit on bikes. Something that would stop the 4 strokes having to be super light and trick and allow the 2 strokes to be better made and more reliable. (75kg say) level playing field just chose the power you prefer!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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