The Stopping Rule

[aficionado]

as im sure you are aware, in briton we have generally two sets of rules to ride with stoping allowed and stoping not allowed-(personally i think worse)

so im wondering why we have the no-stop rule as i can not figure out why?

as basically if you follow no stop rules to the 'letter of the law' you either get a clean, or a 5 )or you keep it rolling using the spider technique!)

Also i dont see any draw backs to stop one as when using this rule you still get marks for stopping so you try not to stop but if its necacery its only the one not a five and i never see this rule 'clogging up the sections' if any thing stop five would be worse as you tend to 'rush through' and five the section so more people havbe to push there bikes out but with a slight pause you can get lined up and go for a the one.

to add to my opinon that stop one is better is that all world rounds, the brittish champion ship you can totally stop alsong with YMSA trials which is evan better but there is flaws in fully alowing stopping, but my point is that they alowing stopping so it must me better?!

any way please tell me your point of view as i am a full beliver in stoping alowed (especialy stop, hop and reverse!) but please tell me the advantages of both rules.

thanks jonny

[scorpa3]

This is a very emotive subject and has been covered in depth many times before. Get ready to duck

[old trials fanatic]

Yep all been said many many times and both sides are fairly entrenched.

Dont see much changed since last time and cant see it changing either.

[idmcc_sec]

A few years back stopping was allowed, where you could hop, skip, jump side ways and reverse................................also a few years ago clubs were just about on their knees as the majority of riders did not have these skills and didn't want to/couldn't ride trials bikes!

When riders can do all the tricks, sections have to be set out to suit them, then barring the lesser riders.

So feel free to have your point of view but the majority will disagree and prefer "no stop" .

That's why it's the way it is! D.

[scorpa3]

A few years back stopping was allowed, where you could hop, skip, jump side ways and reverse................................also a few years ago clubs were just about on their knees as the majority of riders did not have these skills and didn't want to/couldn't ride trials bikes!

When riders can do all the tricks, sections have to be set out to suit them, then barring the lesser riders.

So feel free to have your point of view but the majority will disagree and prefer "no stop" .

That's why it's the way it is! D.

I agree with what you say other than the last bit. Life is never as simple as it first seems, there are infact three sets of rules currently used in the UK.

• Firstly the British Championship which uses the FIM version of stopping allowed.
  
• Then the most commonly seen version where a stop is a 'one.'
  
• Then the traditional 'non stop' where any stop is a failure.
  

I'm not sure how many events use each of the rules, but I'd guess it is 1% FIM, 79% a stop is a one and 20% where a stop is a five. If that's the case, the most popular version of marking is not Non stop.

Now before I get into trouble here, remember these figures are only my guess and I'd like to say that I would prefer to have just one set of rules and those would be full non stop. But until the FIM goes non stop then we are stuck with at least two and currently three, sets of rules.

[bigfoot]

I think Dave is refering to the scottish (SACU) trials rules. I think I'm right in saying all Scottish trials run under SACU rules are no stop i.e. stop = 5 just like the SSDT. I cant remember when the rule changed but its quite a few years ago now. I'd have to add that for a rider of my standard (OK clubman) trials have improved since. I can't do the hopping and bouncing thing very well and enjoy the challange of keeping the bike moving through a section.

[idmcc_sec]

I'm not sure how many events use each of the rules, but I'd guess it is 1% FIM, 79% a stop is a one and 20% where a stop is a five. If that's the case, the most popular version of marking is not Non stop.

Now before I get into trouble here, remember these figures are only my guess and I'd like to say that I would prefer to have just one set of rules and those would be full non stop. But until the FIM goes non stop then we are stuck with at least two and currently three, sets of rules.

Mmm, so 79%(approx) of English trials run TSR22A, I'm very surprised!

Yes, in Scotland, TSR 22B, no worries, bigger entries (less population of course) and easier to observe, but then again we do have some of the best trials ground in the world. D.

Edited June 8, 2007 by idmcc_sec