clarkp Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 I just lifted this from the 'Sherco / Bultaco' forum... interesting... Informal count of the numbers of bikes of each brand competing in the SSDT... Beta 65 Sherco 60 Gas Gas 59 Montesa 51 Scorpa 21 Yamaha 6 Aprilla 1 Fantic 1 There were 16 riders who did not state what brand bike they were riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highland lassie Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 Once all the riders registered the final count was : 79 Beta 64 Sherco 63 Gas Gas 49 Montesa 15 Scorpa 07 Yamaha 01 Aprilia 01 Bultaco 01 Fantic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgshannon Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 Anyone have the initiative to count the bikes that finished as a comparison to what started? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highland lassie Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 Initiative, yes. Inclination, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkp Posted May 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 I'm embarrassed to say that I had the time to count the bikes starting and finishing the SSDT. This information came directly from the SSDT web posting of results for this year. The following information came to light: Started DNC DNC % Aprilia 1 1 100% Beta 65 17 26% Fantic 1 0 0% Gas Gas 59 15 25% Montesa 51 10 20% Scorpa 21 8 38% Sherco 60 20 33% Yamaha 6 0 0% Where the first number after the brand name is the number of bikes entered, the second number is the number of bikes that DNF'd at least one of the six days, and the last number is the ratio of the first two. Obviously, a lower percentage means more bikes finished all six days (zero is better than 100). This does not account for the reason of the DNC (broken bike, broken rider, too tired, too wet, too cold, etc.) only that the bike did not complete ALL six days. I noticed that many riders DNF'd on the last day (don't know why...) which may skew the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Numbers don't correspond to the totals above as posted by Highland lassie? Too many variables to be meaningful statistics surely, one Beta failure is a 1.25% whereas one Fantic is 100%. You need to ask each individual the actual REASON for failure before it can be make specific surely? If you want the best bike for scotland the statistics prove we should all be Yamaha or Fantic mounted. I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkp Posted May 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Obviously, a lower percentage means more bikes finished all six days (zero is better than 100). This does not account for the reason of the DNC (broken bike, broken rider, too tired, too wet, too cold, etc.) only that the bike did not complete ALL six days. I noticed that many riders DNF'd on the last day (don't know why...) which may skew the results. As I clearly stated in my post there is no way to understand the reason for the DNF - I'm just looking at the numbers - draw your own conclusions. I'm not looking for the best bike for Scotland... and, of course, the numbers for Yamaha, Fantic, etc. are not what I'm interested in, only the majors: Beta, Montesa, Scorpa, Sherco, and Gas Gas - the others are only background noise. My numbers came directly from the SSDT posted results (on their web site) for bikes entered in the event and bikes that finished each day - there were about 16 entries that had no brand listed (as Highland Lassie noted as well) so there may be some of the number match-up issues between mine and HL's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 If you want the best bike for scotland the statistics prove we should all be Yamaha mounted.I don't think so. Dabster, you poor misguided lad. Remember Adam Norris had some of his best ever rides on the TYZ and put up some best on day scores (or at least joint best) if I remember rightly in Scotland. The Spanish guys around him that week looked amazed and couldn't believe the way he was riding it. Or was it that they'd never seen a TYZ before The finishing stats forgot to include the Sherpa. Someone in another post mentioned it was a different colour from the one that started. Don't know about that but weren't some Gassers as well what's good for the goose and all that. So Dabster, does Paul Garratt's sterling effort on the Sherpa inspire you to get entered on the 340 next year......... Go on and I'll enter with you on the Ossa. I've got a few, so one for each day should do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 I can't actually Dave as I've only got 4 340's but damn me if the're not the same colour! Whilst I would have loved to do aSSDT before I die I have an awful thought the two things could coincide. 4 easy days in Sardent France in the warm summer with a time limit of near 12 hours is a bit more to my (old) liking. A bit cheaper too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 One thing that I did notice from the stats is the number of Sherco's entered. Considering how young the company is that's quite impressive don't you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 I do. It is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkp Posted May 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Also interesting... almost 10% of the competitors DNF'd on the last day alone - they had completed all of the first five days but didn't finish the last day. The results don't show if they started, only that they did not finish. My guess is that some of these guys just threw in the towel and headed for home (or the pub). This 10% was made up of 2 Betas 8 Gas Gas 2 Montesas 3 Scorpas 5 Shercos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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