sam Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 (edited) This means less time for practicing moto-trials intill its fixed! 16.0 OVS vertical Briggs engine. Symptoms: Ran out of gas, chug, chug, chug. Filled tank, but would not start, opened air box, she slightly back fired a few times. Pulled carb and cleaned well, still will not start, open rocker cover and noticed top rocker very loose, inspected push rod and looks good, tighten rocker up. Now, starts right up, but top rocker arm will not tighten to eqaul tension as lower rocker, much play but starts well, makes much tap noise. So, is it a broken valve? What should I do next? shercosam Edited August 15, 2007 by Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Thank You for the response Leedo55, Helpfull! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technowaldo Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 This means less time for practicing moto-trials intill its fixed!16.0 OVS vertical Briggs engine. Symptoms: Ran out of gas, chug, chug, chug. Filled tank, but would not start, opened air box, she slightly back fired a few times. Pulled carb and cleaned well, still will not start, open rocker cover and noticed top rocker very loose, inspected push rod and looks good, tighten rocker up. Now, starts right up, but top rocker arm will not tighten to eqaul tension as lower rocker, much play but starts well, makes much tap noise. So, is it a broken valve? What should I do next? shercosam throw it in the skip and buy a honda mower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 (edited) I need to do like Anthony Hopkins did in the movie{ Last Fast Indian} When the neighbors complain about my tall grass, I'll just burn It! Edited August 15, 2007 by Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinell Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 yeah help me 2 my hairdryer is broken Not very helpful but funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 (edited) Not funny at all, I happend to be bald and I'm very sensitive about hairdryers! I'm sorry, I misunderstood the comment about hairdryers, meaning the modern day mower can be as complicated to work on as a hairdryer! Edited August 15, 2007 by Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian r Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Probably a sheared flywheel key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 (edited) Hi Brian, This engine has one cylinder with overhead valves, two rocker arms, engine sets vertical, top rocker arm was loose, So I tightend. Engine starts no problem but the rocker arm can not be adjusted enough to remove noise. Inspected push rod and it looks good, so why can I not take more slack out of rocker arm. Valve seems OK, motor start runs good, If valve is damaged it would not run properly, right? This would be related to flywheel key? Edited August 15, 2007 by Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 With my limited knowledge of 4 stroke engines, I burned an exhaust valve on my 250 ninja, it no run at all, had a small chunk out of valve. This may be a dumb question: but is the other rocker arm loose enough to cause noise? Is the noise like a ticky ticky ticky noise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Sam, have you blown a seal-------lately? If for some reason it got too hot(lean), it may have dropped a valve seat in the thing, or you could have a flat cam causing the excess clearance! My guess the valve seat! Pull the head! Cheers, MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofasttim Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Sam, have you blown a seal-------lately? This penguin's driving through the desert. It's really hot and he's suffering. Suddenly the car develops an odd misfire. He nurses the car to the nearest town and service station. He explains the problem to the mechanic who tells him to come back in an hour. We walks (waddles?) down the road to the nearest 7-11. When inside he spies the ice-cream fridge into which he throws himself with abandon and gorges himself with ice-cream. Eventually, his face covered in ice cream he returns to the service station. The mechanic looks at him and says "looks like you've blown a seal". Defensively he replies "no!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted August 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Problem Solved! Mower runs out of gas, during the time trying to start I use a small amount of starting fluid which creates small back fire, percusion knocks small spacer out which rides between rocker arm and spring! I actually found the spacer. Please, be kind to the mechanicaly deficient! shercosam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan bechard Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Paul Harvey Maintenance. The Rest of the story Glad you got it sorted, I was not following along with the entire it ran out of gas, and would not restart, so I adjusted the valves line of thought. Glad you got it going. As a general rule, Ether should not be used on gas motors except as a last ditch effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin j Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 wd40 is combustible, works ok, and not as violent as ether in the wrong hands.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian r Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 The run out of gas back fire thing is the reason I said check the flywheel key. They might run with a sheared key, just not well. Looked like something had to have happened from the backfire................ Make sure you didn't stretch the Johnson Rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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