beta bodger Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) Bike did not feel great today bit sluggish but nothing too noticable. Rode around a bit say for 1 hour and then slowed down to stop, changing down in the process. then noticed my bike had turned into a oil waterfall! It seems as if a gear tooth may have flown off and put a hole in the engine case! Engine Case http://www.flickr.com/photos/12077623@N08/1215519275/ The bits that came off/out http://www.flickr.com/photos/12077623@N08/...in/photostream/ Tooth is on the left. Should I A)Try and replace the engine case and clutch plates?? B Sell the bike it will cost a fortune? C) cry! Any idea how much a new engine case will cost? Help! Edited August 23, 2007 by Beta Bodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyph Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Ouch, that looks nasty. I think you'd be best off removing the clutch cover to check the extent of the internal damage and maybe then cry? Give lampkin's a ring/email 01535 655970 sales@beta-uk.com for prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta bodger Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Ouch, that looks nasty.I think you'd be best off removing the clutch cover to check the extent of the internal damage and maybe then cry? Give lampkin's a ring/email 01535 655970 sales@beta-uk.com for prices. Thanks Glyph i may have to use your guide in the near future! Do you think it likely to be a gear tooth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyph Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Ouch, that looks nasty.I think you'd be best off removing the clutch cover to check the extent of the internal damage and maybe then cry? Give lampkin's a ring/email 01535 655970 sales@beta-uk.com for prices. Thanks Glyph i may have to use your guide in the near future! Do you think it likely to be a gear tooth? I don't think a gear tooth is likely to get through to that side of the crank case. Looks more as if it's off the back of the clutch basket. Check out this pic for comparison: http://www.glyndavidson.co.uk/imageViewer....a-Engine-24.jpg As for the guide, hey you know, I felt as if i had to give something in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaty250xox Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 c cry but dont worry. there are allways engines around and it will be beta second time round dont dispear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 If that is all the damage to the case then it could be minor. But cleaning out the small bits will be the challenge without causing further problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta bodger Posted August 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) Ok, so ive been on to Lampkins and its Edited August 24, 2007 by Beta Bodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta bodger Posted August 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) Update Ive been out and taken the clutch side off. It seems the cog has broke a tooth and dragged it to the engine case getting stuck and then forcing a break. What is this cog that's broken? The first shot shows both the broken cog and the hole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12077623@N08/1225008547/ The second shows the hole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12077623@N08/...in/photostream/ The exploded parts diagram on the Beta site does not help much with this.... Edited August 24, 2007 by Beta Bodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betarick Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Looks a easy repair to me get casing welded stick a new kickstart gear in job sorted! Its got to work out cheaper than new casings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyph Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Looks a easy repair to me get casing welded stick a new kickstart gear in job sorted! Its got to work out cheaper than new casings! I agree There's no oil pressure in the casing so I would imagine welding it back together would do the trick. Those lumiweld rods are cheap enough to experiment with as well, although I bought a welder off ebay last week for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta bodger Posted August 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 (edited) Thanks guys! I think im going to get it welded for belt and braces. I have never taken a bike engine apart before but im mechanically minded so im going to give it a go. I take it i need to order a kick start gear cog (i take it thats what ive broken???) together with the associated gaskets. Is that the cog that has the tooth broken? Glyph i think the engine cases are just alumnium. Edited August 26, 2007 by Beta Bodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyph Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Yup, it's the "starter gear". Shouldn't be a hard job, I think the most diffuculty you will have is getting the spring back on? You will most definately need an impact wrench to remove the clutch. Don't apply any force to the clutch basket when trying to remove it, they break easily. The only gasket you should need to replace is the "inner clutch cover gasket" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beta bodger Posted August 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) Yup, it's the "starter gear".Shouldn't be a hard job, I think the most diffuculty you will have is getting the spring back on? You will most definately need an impact wrench to remove the clutch. Don't apply any force to the clutch basket when trying to remove it, they break easily. The only gasket you should need to replace is the "inner clutch cover gasket" Thanks Glyph. Im going to order the parts tomorrow and then start to take the engine out...... It will never work again! Ha Ha Edited August 27, 2007 by Beta Bodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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