ksv Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I will be getting a 08 270 pretty soonish. Just wondered if anyone knew of any tuning parts to give it a bit more grunt. Also any nice sparkly anodized bits would be appreciated as everyone likes a bit of bling. I have looked on the beta website and seen those bits but not sure how to get my hands on them, do british dealers stock them? Any info would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phb Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I would contact John Lampkin probably your best bet for offical beta bling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastplacebrad Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 See previous thread about Top trial version you dont get anymore bling than that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbeaven Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 (edited) I will be getting a 08 270 pretty soonish. Just wondered if anyone knew of any tuning parts to give it a bit more grunt. Also any nice sparkly anodized bits would be appreciated as everyone likes a bit of bling. I have looked on the beta website and seen those bits but not sure how to get my hands on them, do british dealers stock them?Any info would be appreciated. 08 270 and you want more grunt!?!! Try riding it first before you splash the cash on unecessaries... Edited October 10, 2007 by DanBeaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksv Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I will be getting a 08 270 pretty soonish. Just wondered if anyone knew of any tuning parts to give it a bit more grunt. Also any nice sparkly anodized bits would be appreciated as everyone likes a bit of bling. I have looked on the beta website and seen those bits but not sure how to get my hands on them, do british dealers stock them?Any info would be appreciated. 08 270 and you want more grunt!?!! Try riding it first before you splash the cash on unecessaries... I have done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windlestone Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 All you really need is a front tyre like your Dad's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 (edited) Are planning on joining me at NASA like Kirk ? talk to Martin Phillipson, he should know a thing or two about Betas Edited October 10, 2007 by Baldilocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksv Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Well so far I'm going for- Higher Compression cylinder head Shiny Red Levers Akrapovic Exhaust Raptor Titanium Footrests and of course take the damn flywheel weight off and fit a fast action throttle! NASA here I come... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksv Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 No world round, just trying to jump through all the sections at the local North East trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Heath , I 've seen 'Captain Kirk' in action and he can make full use of warp drive. It's enough to make you bitter and twisted . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) Moto Tassani VForce3 carbon fiber reeds. I have them on my '05 and they really smooth out the grunt at the low revs. Makes it much easier to pull higher gears when going really slow. http://www.vforce3.com/ The other thing I did to my Beta and I'm not sure if they've fixed this on the '08s or not was to pull out the clutch pack and dress the tabs on the fiber plates. Beta clutches have always been sticky and used large springs. That was a mystery to me until I decided to figure out why the Beta clutch was such a bear. When I pulled the clutch out and visually inspected the plates under a microscope I was horrified. http://www.newenglandtrials.org/clutch001.jpg http://www.newenglandtrials.org/clutch003.jpg These are photos of the fiber plate tabs with about three months of wear in. Essentially these are bearing surfaces that must slide to engage and disengage the clutch. It's apparent that these are forged but not dressing the tabs leaves an uneven surface. When the clutch is engaged these ridges are driven into the side of the clutch basket slots grabbing as they go. This causes the clutch to slip. as more power is fed to the clutch more side torque drives these ridges harder into the basket. The green between the ridges is residual adhesive from the fiber material. The fix that has been used is heavier springs to force the plates to slide together. On the opposite end when the clutch is disengaged the plates don't have the heavier spring pressure to push them apart so the plates stick together because of the side torque. This also makes the release much more sudden then it should be as a moment with the engine torque released will allow the plates to separate suddenly. The other issues caused by this is uneven wear of the clutch basket so even replacing the plates may not fix it on an older bike where the plates and basket have worn into each other. What I did to my bike was pull the clutch pack out and dress the ends of the tabs with a jeweler's file. (every toolbox should have a set) and then polish with a polishing stone. I used a Dremel tool but a hand stone will work just fine. Wash the plates thoroughly before putting the clutch pack back in. Soapy water works fine just make sure you rinse all the soap off as a last step so it doesn't damage the tranny oil. I left out two clutch springs on mine and have been riding the bike almost every weekend (except winter) for two years. No clutch slip and the engagement is super smooth and consistent and I weigh around 235lbs and really beat on the clutch. It's worth it for any Beta owner to pull the clutch pack and have a look. Dan Edited October 14, 2007 by Dan Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksv Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 How many Star Trek jokes are needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Ok.Ok, Just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrybaines Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I see Raptor are now making the hangers for the 07 and very nice they look too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil king Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Moto Tassani VForce3 carbon fiber reeds. I have them on my '05 and they really smooth out the grunt at the low revs. Makes it much easier to pull higher gears when going really slow. http://www.vforce3.com/ The other thing I did to my Beta and I'm not sure if they've fixed this on the '08s or not was to pull out the clutch pack and dress the tabs on the fiber plates. Beta clutches have always been sticky and used large springs. That was a mystery to me until I decided to figure out why the Beta clutch was such a bear. When I pulled the clutch out and visually inspected the plates under a microscope I was horrified. http://www.newenglandtrials.org/clutch001.jpg http://www.newenglandtrials.org/clutch003.jpg These are photos of the fiber plate tabs with about three months of wear in. Essentially these are bearing surfaces that must slide to engage and disengage the clutch. It's apparent that these are forged but not dressing the tabs leaves an uneven surface. When the clutch is engaged these ridges are driven into the side of the clutch basket slots grabbing as they go. This causes the clutch to slip. as more power is fed to the clutch more side torque drives these ridges harder into the basket. The green between the ridges is residual adhesive from the fiber material. The fix that has been used is heavier springs to force the plates to slide together. On the opposite end when the clutch is disengaged the plates don't have the heavier spring pressure to push them apart so the plates stick together because of the side torque. This also makes the release much more sudden then it should be as a moment with the engine torque released will allow the plates to separate suddenly. The other issues caused by this is uneven wear of the clutch basket so even replacing the plates may not fix it on an older bike where the plates and basket have worn into each other. What I did to my bike was pull the clutch pack out and dress the ends of the tabs with a jeweler's file. (every toolbox should have a set) and then polish with a polishing stone. I used a Dremel tool but a hand stone will work just fine. Wash the plates thoroughly before putting the clutch pack back in. Soapy water works fine just make sure you rinse all the soap off as a last step so it doesn't damage the tranny oil. I left out two clutch springs on mine and have been riding the bike almost every weekend (except winter) for two years. No clutch slip and the engagement is super smooth and consistent and I weigh around 235lbs and really beat on the clutch. It's worth it for any Beta owner to pull the clutch pack and have a look. Dan Dan, when you left 2 springs out, did you put the bolts in or leave them outs as well? My '08 270 clutch is inconsistant and grabby also chatters/chudders and is about as noisy as a Ducati dry clutch with the cover off. It also vibrates to beat hell. I just got the bike and have only ridden it twice. I'm not too happy about it either. Thanks, Neil King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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