ham2 Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 As the title suggests - Two TC regulars have crossed over to the other side???I was just wondering....... If you're out there fellas ,can you tell us( in your own time) why you changed and what you make of the 4rt compared to your previous 2-st steeds? I am not knocking or judging--- just nosey. Cheers, Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perce Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Just had a call from Munch, he's at Dabster Towers to programme the 4rt. Dabster is currently doing the large sections he's built in his garden.....in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinell Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 I hope Munch has his camera with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perce Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Yes he did, here's one. Please note that no Dabsters were hurt during the taking of this photograph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Thats actually one of the bigger sections which as usual looks smaller in a photograph. I was doing fine until the bike ran out of fuel and the lights cut out halfway up a bank, bu99er. Quite a few reasons for the move honestly; 1. I really think that the 4rt is better on beck type clubman sections, mainly due to the suspension. 2. I have always had a prejudice against montesas since I was a bulto man but this is 2007 and not 1977, so thats daft. 3. I was never sure about my gas gas till I got one and had it a few months, and have had some really good rides on that so felt that curiosity could only be satisfied by getting one. 4. From what I can gather the 07 and 08 are a notch up on the previous so think that the wait was best. 5. I like the idea of being able to program the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinell Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 5. I like the idea of being able to program the thing. You need petrol in it before you can p*** about programming it, isn't that right Munch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munch Posted December 16, 2007 Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 no petrol,just know how Show All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) I loved the Caby, great bike,well made and found I could do lots of stuff on it I couldnt do before, but also found I couldnt do some of the stuff I was good at on the Rev3,evened out in the end as most bike changes do. The biggest problem I had with the Sherco was whenever I ventured out into a stream. I was totally left behind all the way through and found it very twitchy and unstable and mega hard to hold a line. Really good in the mud and roots/big climbs etc but a nightmare up North. I love going to Wales and Derbyshire to compete/practice but soon found myself avoiding what I like riding more then anything. I had no intention of selling the Caby as the choices didnt look any better,had mega problems with the Beta so didnt want to get me a*** bit again there,been bitten way too often with Gassers, couldnt bring myself to buy a Scorpa and the 4rt was a noisey bus that would be way to heavy and big for me to ride. Clarky had just bought his 270 Rev3 and had a quick spin on it (only quick though) felt big after the caby and way to much power (that new carb has made the 270 a little OTT for most) gave it back to Clarky after about 2 mins and Dad offered his tractor for me to try. This was the first time I had chucked a leg over a 4rt and wished I had done it 2 years ago. I couldnt beleive how stable it was,held its line and and instantly jelled with it. Took Dad about 4 hours chasing me round the quarry trying to get it back (hes got a dodgy knee so no chance catching) The Caby is a mega bike,but defo a real experts tool, I could see how it needed to be ridden but just beyond my level. Now Ive had it three weeks or so I just cant see me ever buying anything else,its given me alot of confidence back especially on rocks and have no problems with grip even though the dishes has been about as slippy as it gets past weeks. Pretty sure it grips better than a 2 stroke in most places but struggles in some areas but think thats just me, and defo grips a hell of alot better than a 2 stroke on some types of climbs. Gagging to go up north for a play soon as Ive not tried it in a stream yet where they excel. Maintenance...........????????????? got **** all to do in the week!!!!!! no carb to p*** about with,air box is always imaculate and dry no matter what mud you go through and its really well put together everywhere. The 4rt although without doubt a big old heavy girl doesnt feel it when ridden,the suspension is so good it feels light or rather feels the correct weight and size for how it rides. The motor is very responsive everywhere and always rides the same no matter what the weather is doing. Hopping about is far easier on the Mont than anything else i have ridden? goes round easier and further and lands gently so much less chance of dabbing on landing it, that has been one of the biggest surprises about this bike. This is also the only bike i have bought that I dont feel i need to change anything on it whatsoever,gearing is spot on/riding position/suspension, no fuel to mix,no carb,no fuel switch, one soft prod on the kickstart and away she goes. Luckily for me and the wallet I have no interest in the bling stuff for the Monts,rather spend the money on spares and tyres than flat tanks and titanium although I have got raptors on it but they are the B*****ks. Heard about how the clutches are bit sharp? maybe the 07 is different but the clutch is mega smooth and strong, deals with flat out 3rd and 4th climbs from nothing without dragging or squealing like a pig, no problems with stalling either one of my slight reservations as a stall on a 4rt is like hitting a brick wall at 30mph. I think the biggest impact the bike has made is the smile factor, its bloody good fun to ride,something I have never thought about a Trials bike before,just riding inbetween sections is fun,if you havent tried one yet give one a go, wont suit everyone but give it 30 mins at least you might be surprised. Edited December 20, 2007 by The Addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizza5 Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 I loved the Caby, great bike,well made and found I could do lots of stuff on it I couldnt do before, but also found I couldnt do some of the stuff I was good at on the Rev3,evened out in the end as most bike changes do. The biggest problem I had with the Sherco was whenever I ventured out into a stream. I was totally left behind all the way through and found it very twitchy and unstable and mega hard to hold a line. Really good in the mud and roots/big climbs etc but a nightmare up North. I love going to Wales and Derbyshire to compete/practice but soon found myself avoiding what I like riding more then anything. I had no intention of selling the Caby as the choices didnt look any better,had mega problems with the Beta so didnt want to get me a*** bit again there,been bitten way too often with Gassers, couldnt bring myself to buy a Scorpa and the 4rt was a noisey bus that would be way to heavy and big for me to ride. Clarky had just bought his 270 Rev3 and had a quick spin on it (only quick though) felt big after the caby and way to much power (that new carb has made the 270 a little OTT for most) gave it back to Clarky after about 2 mins and Dad offered his tractor for me to try. This was the first time I had chucked a leg over a 4rt and wished I had done it 2 years ago. I couldnt beleive how stable it was,held its line and and instantly jelled with it. Took Dad about 4 hours chasing me round the quarry trying to get it back (hes got a dodgy knee so no chance catching) The Caby is a mega bike,but defo a real experts tool, I could see how it needed to be ridden but just beyond my level. Now Ive had it three weeks or so I just cant see me ever buying anything else,its given me alot of confidence back especially on rocks and have no problems with grip even though the dishes has been about as slippy as it gets past weeks. Pretty sure it grips better than a 2 stroke in most places but struggles in some areas but think thats just me, and defo grips a hell of alot better than a 2 stroke on some types of climbs. Gagging to go up north for a play soon as Ive not tried it in a stream yet where they excel. Maintenance...........????????????? got **** all to do in the week!!!!!! no carb to p*** about with,air box is always imaculate and dry no matter what mud you go through and its really well put together everywhere. The 4rt although without doubt a big old heavy girl doesnt feel it when ridden,the suspension is so good it feels light or rather feels the correct weight and size for how it rides. The motor is very responsive everywhere and always rides the same no matter what the weather is doing. Hopping about is far easier on the Mont than anything else i have ridden? goes round easier and further and lands gently so much less chance of dabbing on landing it, that has been one of the biggest surprises about this bike. This is also the only bike i have bought that I dont feel i need to change anything on it whatsoever,gearing is spot on/riding position/suspension, no fuel to mix,no carb,no fuel switch, one soft prod on the kickstart and away she goes. Luckily for me and the wallet I have no interest in the bling stuff for the Monts,rather spend the money on spares and tyres than flat tanks and titanium although I have got raptors on it but they are the B*****ks. Heard about how the clutches are bit sharp? maybe the 07 is different but the clutch is mega smooth and strong, deals with flat out 3rd and 4th climbs from nothing without dragging or squealing like a pig, no problems with stalling either one of my slight reservations as a stall on a 4rt is like hitting a brick wall at 30mph. I think the biggest impact the bike has made is the smile factor, its bloody good fun to ride,something I have never thought about a Trials bike before,just riding inbetween sections is fun,if you havent tried one yet give one a go, wont suit everyone but give it 30 mins at least you might be surprised. Good report Just..................glad your getting on with it and you have probably summed up why 4RT riders like them sooooooooooo much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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