bobtlr Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 hey whats wrong whit the nissan version? i thought they where all the same car but a different badge ? I would choose the vivaro-trafic -primastar van with a vw T5 in good second place regards bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I've had both, Vito and VW T4.I preferred the drive of the Vito, but the build quality of the T4 is definately better. I say this as a trained, qualified vehicle technician I'm told that the build quality of the new T5s is not up to the standard of the earlier T4s, and that the later Mercs are a better motor than the earlier ones. So if it's a very late or new vehicle you're after, then I'd say buy the one that you like the look of best and has the nearest dealer to you. If you're buying earlier, then I'd tip the scales in favour of the VW. They do seem to give better fuel economy, and the resale values seem to be a little better too. One more thought - very little wrong with a Renault Trafic from what I can see..... steer clear of the Nissan variant though. Hope that helps. I got a nissan primastar LWB 115bhp with comfort pack on it (see other thread),2nd one i've had,great vans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 hey whats wrong whit the nissan version? i thought they where all the same car but a different badge ? I would choose the vivaro-trafic -primastar van with a vw T5 in good second place regards bob Not too sure a primastar would be anyones choice above a 174 t5, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtlr Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Not too sure a primastar would be anyones choice above a 174 t5, surely? you have a point there but i am 26 so an 174 bhp van is out of the question i cant get an insurance maximum is 90 kw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofsteele Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Ooops........... Sorry if I upset anyone with my remark about the Nissans..... When van hunting a while back I checked out pretty much every make before buying a T4. A good number of tradesmen I spoke to told me that Nissan put their own engines in their version of that van, and that they had some reliability issues, whereas the other two variants seemd to be trouble free. As a consequence, the secondhand values were lower than the Renault or Vauxhall versions. I would always consider this as well as everything else when choosing a van, or dishing out advise on t'interwebnet... It's not to say the Nissan is a bad van, just in my opinion it sits behind the other two. Of course I've only taken other peoples word for it, and I wasn't looking at new vans. It may be the case that they all share the same lumps now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Ooops...........Sorry if I upset anyone with my remark about the Nissans..... When van hunting a while back I checked out pretty much every make before buying a T4. A good number of tradesmen I spoke to told me that Nissan put their own engines in their version of that van, and that they had some reliability issues, whereas the other two variants seemd to be trouble free. As a consequence, the secondhand values were lower than the Renault or Vauxhall versions. I would always consider this as well as everything else when choosing a van, or dishing out advise on t'interwebnet... It's not to say the Nissan is a bad van, just in my opinion it sits behind the other two. Of course I've only taken other peoples word for it, and I wasn't looking at new vans. It may be the case that they all share the same lumps now? the nissan kubistar, same as berlingo/kango... is sopposed to be shocking,the engines blow. Even the nissan salesman said"dont bother"!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofsteele Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 That's a worry eh? Most people reckon the Berlingo ain't a bad van. Don't think I've ever actually seen a Kubistar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shercosi Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I would say that this topic depends on how deep your pockets are l drive a lwb vivaro everyday for work and l have driven the VW/Merc vans in the past and personally think the vivaro is a lot better on comfort and handling. You could probablly buy a new vivaro/traffic dual cab with a good spec inc metallic for what you pay for a 18 month-2 year old with a good spec. A word of warning!! they do say dont keep the vivaro/traffic past its warrenty as they are prone to doing gearboxes. Before l purchesed my vivaro we priced a new transporter up in a good spec i.e. air con metallic paint etc on the 130ps swb and was quoted around 21000+vat and when we asked about disscount the sales manager would not disscus until we placed an order with deposit so we never went back and went and bought my vivaro lot less fuss talked good disscount and we took him up on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtlr Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 hey are there still troubles whit the gearbox on the vivaro? i was under the impression that it only happend with the verry early cars regards bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg125 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 So if it's a very late or new vehicle you're after, then I'd say buy the one that you like the look of best and has the nearest dealer to you. If you're buying earlier, then I'd tip the scales in favour of the VW.That seems to fit with what I've heard from other people too. Both the Vito and T5 post ~2005 seem to be good. I don't want to spend that much so a T4 is looking favourite at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 That seems to fit with what I've heard from other people too. Both the Vito and T5 post ~2005 seem to be good. I don't want to spend that much so a T4 is looking favourite at the moment. A good 112 is a better van than a t4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozza321 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 its not a vito or transporter, and its not the same size, but... you would sure get to the trial in record time... beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilc0 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 its not a vito or transporter, and its not the same size, but... you would sure get to the trial in record time...beast Look's like whoever has done quite a nice job on that,not to sure why they picked a berlingo though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofsteele Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 That seems to fit with what I've heard from other people too. Both the Vito and T5 post ~2005 seem to be good. I don't want to spend that much so a T4 is looking favourite at the moment. Fair enough. There's a few engines to choose from, the basic 1.9td being the runt of the litter at 68bhp. The most sought after and most tuneable (if thats your thing) is the 2.5TDi, which comes in at 102bhp and drives very strongly indeed. My old T4 has the 2.4 naturally aspirated lump in it which is reasonably economical, but not so good on the motorways at speed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manwithtool Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I went for a T4 recently....old banger. Very little rust and seems to be built really well. Strong following for advice on T4forum. Loads of bits available to "tart it up" normally not used by builders so rare to find one full of cement dust...mainly electricians, chippys and Trials riders own them !! Don;t be put off the 1.9 normally aspirated or turbo. I've heard they are a more reliable engine than the 5 cyl 2.4. I ended up with a 2.0 petrol...which I converted to lpg....now costs less to run than a diesel.... check out the t4forum website before you choose.....it'll convince you a t4 is the way to go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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