madmax Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Careful there JT, you are risking your credibility. I realize that your are just an unwitting pawn for the Canadian and US Gas Gas importers, but I also think that your are a good guy who has just fallen in with the wrong crowd. This bogus rumor about piston wear is being spread by the US Gas Gas importer. It is just not true. I know for a fact that the Montesa has undergone extensive life testing with no problems. They have done 1500 plus hour life tests in the field and no problems. Same piston. That is equal to over 3 years of normal use and no problems. Having Gas Gas warn you about the reliability of another bike is like having Charles Manson warn you about the scary guy who lives down the road. MADMAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtt Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 (edited) Thanks for the advise MadMax, I'll definitely keep it in mind. Actually my comments don't come from GasGas in any way, in fact I wouldn't have a GasGas 4S right now even if it was available. I've actually not heard any negative comments from the GasGas or any other manufacturer's camps, as all will soon be in the same boat together, like it or not. My comments come more from my MX experience and continuing ties. I was a Honda guy for MANY years and still have tremendous respect for their R&D prowess. In fact, if I was buying a street bike or MX bike, they'd be absolute top of my list. I'm just concerned with experiences on the MX side with these "skirtless" pistons and extreme high performance head/valve designs. They are awesome engineering wonders, but everything comes at a cost. On the MX side there have been many who've "seen the light" and realised that these are "not your daddies XR" anymore. No longer do you go for years with little more than an occasional oil change. These are the F1 powerplants of the motorcycle industry. Michael's Ferrari couldn't survive long without serious maintenance, neither do these engines. And when they do fail, it's usually catastrophic....and VERY expensive. With regards to the trials engines, the loads and rpms will not likely present the serious issues that they do in MX, but believing they will be like the old TLs (running for years with nothing more oil changes from time to time) is a mistake I beleive. I sincerely hope I'm proven wrong. Again, if anyone can build a bulletproof 4S motor, it is Honda. ...guess it's time for my meds again Edited October 8, 2004 by JTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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