micm Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Now that the works riders are competing on the 320 4T bikes, does this mean the Sherco 290's will still be be 'improved.' If so, by whom? If not, are the 4 strokes 'better?' I hope the answer isn't Xispa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I think it could do with a revamp but as you say Sherco are pushing the 4t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I think it could do with a revamp .... In what respect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) It is all the same gear with the 2 vs 4! So things may continue to change, but what? And for what riders? And at what cost? A magnesium "raga" style bike , or a titanium combo, via Montesa factory? How deep is the wallet? As far as the motor goes, it is still mostly bulletproof, and light! That is why Xispa copied it as it is the model of near perfection without the unsuitable aspects of the GasGas pro.\ If there was a perfect bike out there everyone would have one! I do wish there was a bit better fit and finish in consistancy in the production. Things that fit on one bike do not fit on another and so fourth. Each is unique! That is why they do not sell you a mudguard with the holes pre-drilled! You have to fit things! And the variences really p*** me off! In this day, there is no excuse for being off by 3-5mm in anything in alignment. Edited June 10, 2008 by copemech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fracy Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Copey: I agree with you about what you said.......although I have to say that I think the GG has come along way and has done some great strides forward and even ahead of Sherco in the consistency category. I have been very impressed with everything about my sons GG125 Racing model, and was nicely suprised about the improvements in quality control. Mostly I think the general persona portrayed by people about the GG being not up to snuff in quality and reliability are unfounded. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 They have been testing more cc's.(2t) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Copey:I agree with you about what you said.......although I have to say that I think the GG has come along way and has done some great strides forward and even ahead of Sherco in the consistency category. I have been very impressed with everything about my sons GG125 Racing model, and was nicely suprised about the improvements in quality control. Mostly I think the general persona portrayed by people about the GG being not up to snuff in quality and reliability are unfounded. Steve No doubt, Steve, as the new bikes do look really good that are coming out of GG. Not trying to get into any bashing here, but there are just a few things with the Gassers I just cannot seem to get my head around and come to peace with as compared to all others(what I would call conventional bikes). The shift lever and gearbox operation are, lets just say unique. So it the kickstart, probably much easier on the 125 though. Too much engine mechanical thrashing noise. And for some odd reason, no two of the clutches have ever really felt the same to me? Maybe it is just me, daft, I'm not a Pro, cannot adjust, just too old, hard headed, screwed up! I don't even think I have ever said that the Sherco is the best bike out there either. They do seem to have a very good balance going in the tradeoffs of weight, handling, reliability, performance and ease of maintenance. I suppose that if money grew on trees you could have a Sherco with a Showa or Marzzocci front, an Ohlins rear and things like that. Oh well! As we seem to be coming into the age of the $ 8-10,000 four bangers, my old 2T is still looking pretty good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 One other observation on the Sherco as compared to other bikes, and I would like comments on this as feedback. Even beginning with the (chrome) bikes, the front end would seem to push out on cambers. With the latter(black) framed bikes, this tendency seems reduced with a changed geometry, yet the maximum steering angles reduced by limited motion. The Scorpa seems to have LOTS of turning radius, as well as the others by comparison, yet many bikes seem to "tuck under" as well at maximum, and want to skid or put you over the bars! To an extent here, the answer is written by those who are more able to move the rear wheel at will, which seems I can sometimes do, except during a trial! A look at Caby's bike at the WTC revealed a totally different set of Pailoi's, with the tubes dropped soo far that the caps had to be ground off to clear the bars! Point being, there has to be a balance here, where is it? May well vary by rider! I can still usually bang off the stops and not get in trouble in most conditions, once again, a tradeoff it seems, yet if you have ever tucked on a downhill and got spat off onto your head, well? Say your thoughts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 I suppose that if money grew on trees you could have a Sherco with a Showa or Marzzocci front, an Ohlins rear and things like that. Oh well! The trials bike Holy Grail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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