atomant Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Why debate it? Your too smart for religion. Gook luck my friend. The very fact that this is being discussed shows that we are exploring the possible answers to the question.. Unlike yourself who sees religion as the only possible answer. Even without any facts to substantiate it. I too like to 'debate' religion and time and time again, I just come to the conclusion that religion is the work of a subdued brainwashed mind. This poll is interesting. 10 say NO and 5 say not sure ( people obviously with open minds looking for the definitive answer ) But 4 said Yes I suppose if you believe the bible, then you are compelled to believe in ghosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Nigel Dabster,perhaps ghosts are infact images that are somehow stored and then repeated at some point in time, its not that hard to believe when you think we do similar things on video, perhaps this is an advanced type of history storage that we do not understand. or complete B*****kss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilc0 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) What i don't agree with is when people try and make TV about it and charge people silly amount's of money to go along to find a ghost,with technology these day's anything can be set up to make a ghost like image to appear in the corner of a big old house so people won't think they've been conned. I wish i was on the side of the non believer but im not so im going to have to make myself look like a white coat job. Edited November 9, 2008 by bilc0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikespace Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Why debate it? Your too smart for religion. Gook luck my friend. I don't even pretend to be too smart, but at least I'm willing to debate it, and I'm not too smug to lay my cards on the table. The 'holier than thou' phrase seems pretty apt here eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulthistle Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 The very fact that this is being discussed shows that we are exploring the possible answers to the question.. Unlike yourself who sees religion as the only possible answer. Even without any facts to substantiate it. I too like to 'debate' religion and time and time again, I just come to the conclusion that religion is the work of a subdued brainwashed mind. This poll is interesting. 10 say NO and 5 say not sure ( people obviously with open minds looking for the definitive answer ) But 4 said Yes I suppose if you believe the bible, then you are compelled to believe in ghosts. Atom, I thought you were a beliver? On the way up to Lampkin Falls I believe I heard you call on him(OH God!). And I know you had "faith" you would make it. Could religion lead to an enlightened mind? At one time conventional wisdom said the earth was flat. Now its round. Every time you think you know everything, everything changes. Tell me you never prayed for something to work out, just this one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Atom, I thought you were a beliver? On the way up to Lampkin Falls I believe I heard you call on him(OH God!). And I know you had "faith" you would make it.Could religion lead to an enlightened mind? Probably not or why all these religion based wars At one time conventional wisdom said the earth was flat. Now its round. Actually the earth has always been round, not based on wise thought at all. Every time you think you know everything, everything changes. Whilst atom may be a twirp at times I don't think he has ever thought he "knew everything". Tell me you never prayed for something to work out, just this one time. We all do at some time mainly because a) we were taught it at school and some things never leave you completely or its an insurance just on the minute off chance there is some higher being. But did we pray to allah or jesus or god, and which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Atom, I thought you were a beliver? On the way up to Lampkin Falls I believe I heard you call on him(OH God!). And I know you had "faith" you would make it.Could religion lead to an enlightened mind? At one time conventional wisdom said the earth was flat. Now its round. Every time you think you know everything, everything changes. Tell me you never prayed for something to work out, just this one time. Lampkin falls was some trek! Julie & I were pretty knackered running up there. I can honestly say that in my Atheist lifetime, I haven't prayed for something to work out. It sounds pretty desperate if you ask me. I prefer to take calculated actions to help things work out. If they don't then that's just tough and you get on with it. Life's pretty much like that don't you think? If you have ever prayed for something to work out, what is your success rate? And Dabster, now if I am a twirp, what does that make you Although to be fair, you have a point but sometimes, I actually try to be one on purpose for entertainment value. It's worked for the last three years me thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulthistle Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Atom, I think I misquoted you. I believe you said "oh @&$" which proves your pure athe ist heart, er... Brain. So when you tell your woman you love her, is it with "all your heart" or "all your brain"? Actually Atom, you were the only one giggling like a school girl on the trip. No religion and no fear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Atom, I think I misquoted you. I believe you said "oh @&$" which proves your pure atheist heart, er... Brain. So when you tell your woman you love her, is it with "all your heart" or "all your brain"? Actually Atom, you were the only one giggling like a school girl on the trip. No religion and no fear! wtf are you on about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) Atom, I think I misquoted you. I believe you said "oh @&$" which proves your pure atheist heart, er... Brain. So when you tell your woman you love her, is it with "all your heart" or "all your brain"? Actually Atom, you were the only one giggling like a school girl on the trip. No religion and no fear! If there was a way of discovering knowledge of religion and where it comes from there are two routes, one is what I might call discovered knowledge (i.e. the world is round) and the other is through Greek philosophy where a claim to higher knowledge of Edited November 10, 2008 by spud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishy Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 birds are attracted by planets because of there colour and the planet want the birds to help pollination, The intergalactic canary, was orbiting planet earth at a little less than light speed, when out of the corner of his eye, he noticed a pile of brightly colored seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 ... quickly donning his re entry plumage he broke through the atmosphere loosing but a few feathers. He was momentarily distracted by a returning shining UFO which had captured the brains (andy t) from the eastern part of a populated land known only as engerland, least that what the hordes packed in like sadines were rhythmically chanting in a more cental location called wemberly......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulthistle Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 wtf are you on about I am failing to be humorous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I am failing to be humorous What's being humorous got to do with anything? Is it me, but there seems to be some correlation between where the members in the thread come from and their staunch beliefs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian r Posted November 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Or lack there of! I noticed it too. Same thing with politics too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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