bsabantamtrials Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 hi. i was just wondering who sells or modifiys modified barrel and heads for bantams. also i have been told alot of people like the d7 engine more for trials is that true. thanks charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 no expert but i suspect the d14 is favourite. if your looking for the inside line on engine stuff i think a guy at Yorks classic is making ally barrels etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenballs Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 hi alan whitton makes an alloy barrel and head i think they are around 300 pounds his number is 01246419805 good luck stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Is it right the d7 barrel is preferred for trials as they produce torque as opposed to the 14 is more top end ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 (edited) Is it right the d7 barrel is preferred for trials as they produce torque as opposed to the 14 is more top end ???? Think you'll find the alloy barrels have been ported for trials. Plus on a tiny engine like the bantam you need revs anyway. Think a lot of confusion is caused because people look at piccys and see bikes that appear to have a D7 fitted when we all know most of the competitive stuff is really D14/4 with D7 side covers etc made to look "period" like everything in Pre65 Oh yes dont forget your fork gaitors if you are riding in Yorks LOL dont matter whats under them just remember your gaitors. Merrrrrry Christmas Edited December 21, 2010 by Old trials fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyboy2 Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Think you'll find the alloy barrels have been ported for trials. Plus on a tiny engine like the bantam you need revs anyway. Think a lot of confusion is caused because people look at piccys and see bikes that appear to have a D7 fitted when we all know most of the competitive stuff is really D14/4 with D7 side covers etc made to look "period" like everything in Pre65 Oh yes dont forget your fork gaitors if you are riding in Yorks LOL dont matter whats under them just remember your gaitors. Merrrrrry Christmas What do you mean Fork gaitors if you are ridding in Yorkshire. Its not a problem the've got a special class for the in January? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Its not a problem the've got a special class for the in January? No chance, it is currently a rusty rolling frame and a engine in the back of my van....snowed in. Lucky to be ready for 2012 Currently trawling for all the info I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 What do you mean Fork gaitors if you are ridding in Yorkshire. Its not a problem the've got a special class for the in January? LOL but thats my point theoretically a bike would have to ride in the specials class JUST because they didnt have fork gaitors fitted. Fit gaitors then the bike runs in the "normal" class And people moan about the Scottish Pre65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 we had a good chat about whats acceptable and not at the ycmc agm and as the club has announced since the summer that where guidelines might not have been followed in the past that from jan 1st they will be adhered to. all british bikes are welcome of course just that those outside the rules will have to ride as specials. this makes a level playing field for everyone. sure one of the club rules is forks should have gaitors but as the majority of bikes did before 65 whats wrong with that? the club felt that by giving the riders 6 months or so to put thier bikes right then the rules will be the same for all and applied the same to all. riders must also now be club members to qualify for championsip points so get your tenners in smartish .. before the first round in mid january. existing members have just recieved there newsletter in the post with full details of the AGm reports and photos from the latest championship trials plus articles on modern petrol.. and winter riding tips from the archive. ps new website now available to preview ( http://yorksclassictrialscouk.moonfruit.com/ ) and well worth alook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 we had a good chat about whats acceptable and not at the ycmc agm and as the club has announced since the summer that where guidelines might not have been followed in the past that from jan 1st they will be adhered to. all british bikes are welcome of course just that those outside the rules will have to ride as specials. this makes a level playing field for everyone. sure one of the club rules is forks should have gaitors but as the majority of bikes did before 65 whats wrong with that? the club felt that by giving the riders 6 months or so to put thier bikes right then the rules will be the same for all and applied the same to all. riders must also now be club members to qualify for championsip points so get your tenners in smartish .. before the first round in mid january. existing members have just recieved there newsletter in the post with full details of the AGm reports and photos from the latest championship trials plus articles on modern petrol.. and winter riding tips from the archive. ps new website now available to preview ( http://yorksclassictrialscouk.moonfruit.com/ ) and well worth alook i dont usually like to go off topic, but i can understand the desire to keep bikes looking period, but why pick up on gaitors when there are things like bantams turning up with tanks and mudguards that make them look more like beta's (with gaitors) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 i dont usually like to go off topic, but i can understand the desire to keep bikes looking period, but why pick up on gaitors when there are things like bantams turning up with tanks and mudguards that make them look more like beta's (with gaitors) ? And Cubs with "period" ?????? Dellorto catbs ? Yeah right Oh how we need a universal set of "rules" that applies to all pre65 events in the UK because it's getting like a minefield. Yorks Classic, Scottish et al. We need to be on the same page or at least the same book. I am not anti Yorks classic just how can a poor sod ever build a bike with so many anomalies. Suppose you have to decide where you want to ride before building a bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedco Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 (edited) Off topic, I looked at one of the well known Yorkshire bantams. From the photo, my guess on 'rules'/ spot the difference 1.Redesigned frame, curved or fixed lower top tube, 2.No bottom tube 3. subframe altered/ narrowed.4.Engine lifted/tilted 5.swinging arm altered both width & length. 6.Tilted shocks 7. Billet yokes 8. Ty mono forks in Norton lowers.9. Redesigned new wheels .10 Fuel tank 11. Tons more mods..... Haha, like a majesty with a bsa sticker on it - no, atleast a majesty is 30 years old! Edited December 23, 2010 by shedco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 all great points of discussion fellas. the nub is though that there is a clearly worded set of rules at yorks classic and those rules are as written/ voted for by the club members so there will/ may be some anomalies but each has been passed by the democratic process. over my years as a member rules have moved, bantams were only allowed 3 speeds when i started and progress has seen that change. you dont have to have a trick piece of kit to do well. the vintage two stroke class was contested this and every year by original bikes built and maintained well within tight budgets. certainly lots of money is spent on cubs and villiers engined bikes but i dont see any of the money bags bikes on the top of podium in this years championship. decent riders win trials and you cant beat em by spending more money.. a simple rule but it holds as good today as it always has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedco Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Yep, you cannot buy skill, I usually get beat on my Ty by a chap older than me on a..... rigid bantam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_nc Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Hum, I like the Gator idea. I've got Yamaha DT forks on my Bantam and that would hide them pretty well. ;0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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