honda pants Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hi, can anyone advise me on how to make adjustments to my Clutch, at present if i select 1st and depress kickstart she moves forward,but if the motor's running nothing happens when gear is selected. Also the chain came off a couple of times yesterday even though it appeared to be aligned ok, any suggestions please. As you can guess i'm new to all this british stuff after 7 years on a TLR!!!!Didn't even have an imperial allen key! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony283 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 First point, you can't intentionally start the Cub in gear! You must be in neutral. It is quite normal to ease in the clutch with the engine in neutral to seperate the clutch plates by depressing the kickstart GENTLY. You don't say how the chain kept coming off, is your cub modified with a tensioner or does it have a chain guide? Both mechanisms can easily get bent in a trial and will run the chain off with ease. Secondly look at the tension in the chain and check that it is consistent all the way round it's loop, use the connecting link at a datum. Might be time for a new chain. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honda pants Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Tony, thanks for your reply. Firstly the cub has a spring loaded chain tensioner and the chain is relitvley new so i will check the tensioner isn't bent because the chain appeared to be aligned and tensioned ok. Regarding the clutch i will try out your suggestion this evening and let you know what happens. regards Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honda pants Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Update..... Couldn't start the engine as the kickstart just depressed similar to holding clutch lever in, I have removed the clutch cover and removed clutch plates these were quite dry actually as there wasn't much if any oil in the casing.What can i do next please? regards Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyb Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hi Ive got an old drip tray my old Dad used for his Austin Allegro if you want me to post it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honda pants Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Shove the drip tray you will need it for your old knocker of an RTL.....Japanese sh*te!! the Slip is flying the british flag now!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08colin Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 while you have the clutch cover try the kick start again and watch the clutch unit to see if it is slipping plates make sure you have some cable free play at at handle bar lever if nesesary slacken the clutch centre push rod ajuster after that its down to the clutch plates and the clutch spring tension ajustment as i have already said you should be able to see what 's going on while you have the primarycover off, also while your at it check the gearbox sprocket hasn.t come loose and also check the end float on the clutch unit hope this helps colini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honda pants Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Colin, thanks mate i'm off back to the shed to check out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhondaman Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Get a haynes manual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsoldtimer Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Slacken cable or disconnect to give loads of free play. Slacken adjuster on end of clutch and unscrew. Screw in slowly until resistance is felt then slacken of quarter of a turn - tighten locknut. Adjust cable to leave a small amount of freeplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honda pants Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Get a haynes manual? I have tried to get one. maybe amazon will do one i will check them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honda pants Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Getting somewhere now!!! After stripping out the clutch etc I have discovered the Woodruff Key has sheared.I will make a new one tonight and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyb Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Use a old rusty washer,that will do.Dont drop it in the oil filled drip tray,can be a bu!!er to find.Then again just find another rusty washer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 is it me ???, am i missing some thing here? you can't kick start a cub in gear. The kick start engages on the main shaft and turns the engine over via the clutch. if the bike is in gear the gearbox sproket will rotate and the bike will move forward. Even If you pull the clutch the sprocket will still rotate, the gears are meshed in the box taking the drive from the kick start via the main shaft to the final drive sleeve gear and sproket. Pulling the clutch just seperates the gearbox from the engine. in short... if you stall in a section, you have to find neutral before you re-start. As for the clutch.. they are notoriously fragile especially if handling increased power and low gears. It is common to run with only 100ml of oil (ATF) in the primary chain case to aviod over wetting the plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honda pants Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Alan, thanks for your comments, Whilst i have been working on my new aquasition i have now come across something else......The crankcase has two holes drilled in it about 6mm in from where the primary case bolts on, the best way i can descibe is say 6 o'clock and 8 o'clock these two holes are tapped but no bolt or plug fitted so in fact i could see the sump gaurd through them! Hence no oil in the primary case. What would these be for any idea's. Regards to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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