swooshdave Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 1. Show bikes aren't perfect. p***ing about the details isn't productive. Production details are more important. 2. While this might not be the best time to introduce a "new" make, I bet it's easier to sell a Greeves than an Xipswich, or whatever. 3. Recessions don't last forever, this bike may be posed for production in a while and the timing will be spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Xispa at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Dave your way off mate, it does matter at a show, its been proved here now, Edited January 25, 2009 by The Addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooshdave Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Dave your way off mate, it does matter at a show, its been proved here now, Well, with how knotted up the panties get around here over the Xispa, you're probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 I was amazed when I read that Greeves were showing a new machine with the famous marque. I had to get my butt down there and have a look. As soon as I saw it I was really disappointed. Whilst I admire them having a go at breaking into this tough market with a British built machine, it looks like they haven't done their homework. Back to the drawing board I'm afraid Although saying that, It would be interesting to read a decent trials riders review of it. None of us know what the engine or geometry is like of course. ( especially with the fuel tank position ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot 3 Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Could move half these posts to the Xipsa website...... Okay give them the benefit of the doubt. "looks like a shed throw together" - well it probably is but then again does the company extend much beyond a big shed and a couple of lock ups.. 100K development - what did Beta spend on the Evo as a major player with 15-20yrs continuous development? What do GasGas spend on the Raga developments every year, lets not touch how much Honda will spend to save half a kilo on Bou's Monts. Crap cosmetically - ever promise a new design to a show and struggle to make deadlines?? The Evo (please note I am a huge Beta fan) - when it first came out how many posts were there about poor cosmetics, crap design, stupid place for the electrics, that rad cap is way to exposed, the carb will still p*** fuel everywhere.......etc etc etc How bout we see what happens. Greeves played a big part of my growing up because the old man had a couple and I'd love to see them make a go of it, but in the standard british way lets criticise straightaway. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and see what the next model looks like and how they develop the second proto and see if they can get one to the Scottish..... better than Xipsa have done after two years of promises. The fuel tank sounds interesting just a viewpoint Edited January 25, 2009 by Slapshot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt5th Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I for one will be withholding my judgement until we see some proper tests and the later revised models. At the very least Greeves should be applauded for attempting to bring a british made trials bike back to the table. The price is prohibitive but with it being made in Britain that was always going to be the case and even more so now with the drop in the pounds value. I just hope it comes back with graphics to die for and a certain 'something' - be it power delivery, suspension setup etc - that sets it apart from the competition! Greeves - My fingers are crossed for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wri5hty Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) not sure about the price 5300 bit on the high side with beta and gas gas well under that it might struggle a bit especially with the economy the way it is. not a big fan of the color scheme. but its light I'm under 11 stone i would float away in a strong wind on that thing.( do hebo make concrete boots ) thanks for the edit andy. Edited January 26, 2009 by wri5hty Merged with existing topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilc0 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 TodoTrial website have a small article on the Greeves,says they might try and make the scottish with it,could be interesting if they can,Greeves against Xispa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rransome Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Not the best looking bikei have ever seen but a start. I do believe and please correct me if im wrong but its not that many years ago we all said that the new 4 stroke sherco was far too soon and bad with it, but lets just cast our minds back to last weekend and the fact that it stormed it's way to a world round win. Bring it on Greeves show them what britain can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 2 more pics of it - Courtesy of TC member Hewson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micm Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 The other side shows a Sherco design exhaust system right down to the bit on the end you drag the bike out of the ditch with. Sherco kickstart too by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkalounger Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) I guess I like the graphics... maybe because I Edited January 27, 2009 by Sparkalounger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky boy Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Not the best looking bikei have ever seen but a start. I do believe and please correct me if im wrong but its not that many years ago we all said that the new 4 stroke sherco was far too soon and bad with it, but lets just cast our minds back to last weekend and the fact that it stormed it's way to a world round win. Bring it on Greeves show them what britain can do. Wonder if the greeves is full of japanese bits also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie_lejeune Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 everyone thinks every new bike looks crap when it first comes to light , with the ( im guessing) demise of scorpa another manufacturer is what the market needs, albeit i think they are pricing themselves out of the market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.