swooshdave Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I'm with atom on this, and I work on both ends of the buisness aswell. Then ya'll should know that as soon as you attach a trade name to anything the costs double. You want a business phone line? Sure, 2x home line. You want to lease a shop and buy some equipment? Bend on over. You want to prototype some parts? Goodbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_weedon Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I'm with Dabster on this. I struggle to see where the money has gone.... I'm thinking what I could do with a 100k Budget! I wouldn't have built an engine for sure. I started an engine project last year but soon realised that is financial suicide. The only possible thing here is whether they used an outside design company to design the frame. Those costs are high especially if it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomant Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Getting outside specialist help from the likes of Ricardo's, Lotus (Who are as much a specialist consultancy as a car co) and many others costs mega money. I recall the CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) Package we used with ProE cost a 10th of that Greeves costs to rent for a year! I know what you mean reference software. I have 2 seats of Autodesk Inventor Professional. Each seat (software install) cost 6.5k and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooshdave Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 If you are expecting people to part with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Considering the bike isn't even for sale yet, of course it's unfinished. Why not save the comments for a production model?They don't expect to sell that many, so the price will be higher than another make with greater production. Considering how much a "pre-65" bike costs, I don't think price will be a concern. It will be here rest assured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
designtime Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) I always thought pre-production and concept was supposed to look better than production to WOW and entice the buyers. At that price they wont be selling many at all. I if you have a poll the bike would be a doomed based on all the comments so far. I still sand by what I have said from the start of this Topic First impressions and WOW factor! Edited January 31, 2009 by Designtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekr1s Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I'll sum it up for all of you! Its a very poor copy of a good bike, (sherco) i ride a gasser! People are talking of a good starting point, well this is not the case, what an absolute pile of cak after taking the sherco motor out!ITS JUST PLAIN BLOODY NASTY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I'll sum it up for all of you! Its a very poor copy of a good bike, (sherco) i ride a gasser! People are talking of a good starting point, well this is not the case, what an absolute pile of cak after taking the sherco motor out!ITS JUST PLAIN BLOODY NASTY! Perhaps a little harsh. But I have to admit the 'first public showing' of the new model could have made a better impression. Graphics and body panels can easily be changed, but why so bland for the first showing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Perhaps a little harsh. But I have to admit the 'first public showing' of the new model could have made a better impression. Graphics and body panels can easily be changed, but why so bland for the first showing? Probably rushed for the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricky dicky Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 What really baffles me is how narrow minded everybody is. It was rushed to get it to a show just to create a reaction. I seem to remember that when the Sherco came out ( actually called a Bultaco at the time ) it really looked a bit plain and was a copy of a Gas Gas. Why cant people actually give it a chance, its British, surely thats a good thing cos were the most critical people on the planet so when it does reach production it will be good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 HMMMMM! Sherco started as copy of GasGas Xispa is accused of being a copy of Sherco Greeves has been accused of copying Sherco. So all the "New" bikes are just a copy of GasGas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilc0 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Yes it is a shame people are slagging the Greeves down.There's obviously someone close to the top in Greeves that has an interest in Trials otherwise it would'nt have even got to the drawingboard,If i was Greeves reading this i would think screw them ungratefull bunch of tosser's and go to a safe bet of producing a m'xer,enduro or road racer. To many chiefs not enough indians in this world today,everyone can do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Not slagging the Greeves off, but as I said, the first public showing could have made a better first impression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave dix Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Where is the engine manufactured? and if its chinese then the price is waaay too high thou i do support british products and have had many greeves over the years eg hawkstone,anglia,challenger and pathfinder Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilc0 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) First impression's,we're talking like a bunch of tart's here now..What we realy need to know is this bike going to win Trials with the help of the frame design,if it does start to win then it will become the most beautiful Trial bike,we won't know this until afew coming rolling out the factory. Gotta go now,getting my Boob's filled again this afternoon. Edited February 2, 2009 by bilc0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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