whatwasithinkin Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Hi all Please bear with me, Im not new to bikes, but i am very new to trials. My best options are either GasGas or Sherco. From what Ive read over the past few months, Scorpa is going threw tough times , so probably better to avoid. I like new but in this case , were I am so new to this, a good used bike may be the best way economically to get involved. From spending lots of time reading up on both, both bikes appeal to me. SO this is where my question falls between the 2 bikes. I have not seen either right in front of me, just lots of pics online of both. The Sherco looks to have a horn or subsection of frame that supports the fender/airbox. The GG dosent from what Ive seen. Im wondering how strong is the GG airbox/fender? It appears to be only held in place to the frame spine by 3 or 4, 6mm or 7mm screws. Is that correct? And is that strong enough to support itself? Thanks in advance for any insight on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Hi allPlease bear with me, Im not new to bikes, but i am very new to trials. My best options are either GasGas or Sherco. From what Ive read over the past few months, Scorpa is going threw tough times , so probably better to avoid. I like new but in this case , were I am so new to this, a good used bike may be the best way economically to get involved. From spending lots of time reading up on both, both bikes appeal to me. SO this is where my question falls between the 2 bikes. I have not seen either right in front of me, just lots of pics online of both. The Sherco looks to have a horn or subsection of frame that supports the fender/airbox. The GG dosent from what Ive seen. Im wondering how strong is the GG airbox/fender? It appears to be only held in place to the frame spine by 3 or 4, 6mm or 7mm screws. Is that correct? And is that strong enough to support itself? Thanks in advance for any insight on this. You seem to have it! Nothing wrong with either, just different! I tend to recommend a good 250cc as a starter! reguardless of prior experience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjbiker Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I wouldn't limit yourself to just two bikes if all you've seen is pictures? Over the years, I've owned and ridden Gas Gas, Sherco, Scorpa, Beta and Montesa. In my opinion they're all good but my PERSONAL choice is the Gasser with the Beta a close second. Don't worry about structural differences, they all break given the chance! Try and get yourself to a trial and ask around, I've never had a problem giving someone a go of my bike if they ask nicely Try before you buy is always the best bet if possible. Price, age and condition is all you need to worry about, your own personal choice of manufacturer will evolve once you get into it. Most importantly - get a bike and get stuck in GJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Yes, they all have strengths and weaknesses, but none of the current crop of new (recent) models have any significant issues. They're all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatwasithinkin Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Hey thanks guys. Im not against looking at other brands. Scorpa was on my "maybe" list, but If I understand correctly Scorpa is in bankrupsy. So getting a bike that may not have parts available for isnt a headake Im would want. That is why I havent concidered some of the other well known but gone by the wayside brands where there is still used bikes around. Should Scorpa get themselves back on their financial feet again I would seriously concider them. If Honda can work out the bugs on the montesa's, I would seriously concider them also, that is if they import them into the US. My other thought, that I like to think makes alot of sence. There is a dealer litterly less than 10 minutes away that sells GG, Sherco and Scorpa. I havent met him yet, but from what i read he is well respected. If I was 200+ miles away from a dealer, then I wouldnt lets this work into my buying decisions. But were I have a dealer so close, to me it makes total sence to go with a brand that he sells. This why I havent put to much thought into Beta. Beta sounds like a good bike in most ways. But I more or less destroyed my left knee when I was a kid. Its in okay shape now. I had a Maico 490 Magnum that was a left hand kick start and I realy couldnt get used to it. Im not sure what repeated kicking that bike might do to a bad knee. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Many of the parts found on a Scorpa are common to the other manufacturers and the motors are made by Yamaha, so problems with spares won't be too significant for a while after they stop trading... if they do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatwasithinkin Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 ok, thanks. Ive got some time to concider things out. Im having shoulder surgery in 2 weeks to repair damages from my MX days. Im told Ill be without the use of the arm for possibly 6 weeks. Then I have to concentrate on getting back in some form of shape again. So possible I wont be realy ready to buy something and jump into a beginners event until this fall at the earliest. And that will be rushing it at that. There are @ 3-4 places within 2 hours of me that will be holding events this spring and summer, so I will go and watch and get a feel for how the events go. Last time I visited a trials was when they still had 2 rear shocks on them. Now another couple of questions that arent brand specific. Im a big guy at 6'3". Even at my best weight I still wont be able to get below @ 265, maybe 250 if I realy cut back on food that has flavor Anything to concider for tall riders? Also can the springs on these handle that weight and still be effective enough or are there optional springs and shocks available? And I have read countless times that newbs should realy concider 250cc as they are more forgiving, but due to my weight should I concider larger cc engine. Or would gearing be more favorable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 The 250's just tend to be a bit more forgiving, I know several big boys that ride stock suspension, yet you may need to twist up the rear spring a bit! Actually, some get along quite well on 200's! Very easy to ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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