deano Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I'm starting this thread for information regarding the vintage trials to be held in conjunction with Vintage Motorcycle Days at Mid-Ohio July 24-26. The trials are scheduled for Sunday, July 26. As information and details become available I will be posting them here. If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions please post them here or email me direct at dean.siegman@gmail.com. Please put VMD Trials in your subject line if you're emailing me. We're working to make this a fun, challenging, and competitive trials and hope to see many of you at this great venue. Dean Siegman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted May 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 The schedule and rules for the Vintage Motorcycle Days trials have been posted on the AMA website. Schedule and entry forms: http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=834 Rules and classifications: http://www.amadirectlink.com/amrace/forms/...ental_rules.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_nc Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Dean, Thanks for posting the information in such a quick fashion. Question: Bottom line, is it Novice or Amateur "3. Equipment and Classification: a. All motorcycles are required to be fitted with adequate mufflers or silencers and U.S. Forest Service-approved spark arresters, as required at certain events. b. A number plate bearing the rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Alan_nc Posted Yesterday, 07:15 PMTwin Shock All OEM trials motorcycles model year 1978 and newer as originally manufactured with twin shocks, drum brakes and air-cooled engines. OOOH OOOOH Does this Mean I could ride my 1986 Honda TLR200 Reflex in the Vintage Days Trial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted May 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Alan The Novice class was created for first time or inexperienced riders and allows them to ride the easiest line (D) on any bike that fits into any of the defined classifications. We felt this was easier than creating a novice class for each of the six classifications. This means that someone with, lets say, a 74 Yamaha TY250 who may not be comfortable riding the B line would have the option of riding in the Novice class and the D line. The Novice class is not eligible for Vintage Grand National Champion points. And Zippy: Yes, you will be able to ride your Reflex at VMD but that classification also is not eligible for Vintage Grand National Champion points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Cool Deano, I just wanted to know if it was "legal" for the event. The Grand National Points don't interest me. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Now I am lost again! So why is Zippys bike not eledgeable in the 78 and newer twinshock class for series points?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I hope this doesn't sound like a cop out but we really didn't have any input as to the Vintage Grand National Champion. It's something AMA created for this event (VMD) only. If you look at the rules for other disciplines, such as hare scrambles and motocross, you'll see that even though post-1974 bikes are eligible to ride the event they are not eligible for Grand National Champion points. So trials isn't alone in restricting some bikes from that championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slalom_specialist Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Dean,Thanks for posting the information in such a quick fashion. Question: Bottom line, is it Novice or Amateur Thanks Alan Allen, The four (4) lines, are really the same as AHRMA, with the exception that Novice = Beginner and Amateur = Novice. .... The only area I find fault with here is that the Intermediate/ Amateur riders (Intermediate and Novice) will be riding the same line. I am not sure how this will be pulled off, but I suspect this means the intermediate lines will be considerably easier. (So I guess you can flip a coin as to what class you ride at this one) As for the rest of the rules, I personally think the class structure and rules in place for Mid Ohio are confusing to a lot of riders, including myself. First of all, the classes have been dissected to a point where in 3 of the 6 classes you will only have a handful of bikes at best. Vintage Hardtail Any non-swingarm motorcycle with a separate engine and gearbox (Even in AHRMA events there are very few rigid bikes competing....I don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29r Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I know TI will do a great job of pulling this event off, and I will help Don and Royce anyway I can. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Now I am lost again! So why is Zippys bike not eledgeable in the 78 and newer twinshock class for series points?? Actually, I am starting to count the blessings, cause if Zippy ever "won" we would never hear the end of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 copemech Posted Yesterday, 10:37 PMQUOTE (copemech @ May 6 2009, 01:00 AM) * Now I am lost again! So why is Zippys bike not eledgeable in the 78 and newer twinshock class for series points?? huh.gif Actually, I am starting to count the blessings, cause if Zippy ever "won" we would never hear the end of it! huh.gif Damn Right!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_nc Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) I don't know why we don't send Beano his trophy now...... then we won't have to worry about the "Grand" champion. Alan Edited May 7, 2009 by Alan_nc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slalom_specialist Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Did anyone ride this event?? How did it go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I thought the event went pretty well. There were 64 riders that started the event, 21 DNF. I've got a pretty unique perspective in that our same team who set up the VMD trials also set up the AHRMA trials at Windham, Ohio the week before. I'd really like to hear some comments from the riders about either event, all political opinions aside. Dean Siegman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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