corex Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Hey guys, Here's my first post.... I was thinking about getting back into trials but I would like to find a bike that can ride around at 50km/h (or 80) as well. I don't know if this exists, or if it is physically possible. My 280 pro was perfect on trails and trials, but I couldn't ride top gear for more than a minute. I know the bikes aren't meant for that, but can any of the bikes do that? How about the Scorpa Long ride? I don't really want a seat but I'll deal with it if I have to! Thanks for any ideas you guys have. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I cannot imagine why any of them could not handle a steady 50kmh(35mph) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corex Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) I should mention I live in BC Canada, so I'm usually climbing pretty hard on logging roads. My Gas Gas would overheat to quick to really have fun, and I always felt like I was killing it ( not in the good way ). Are the 4 strokes any better than 2 strokes at speed for long periods? I guess what I'm asking is, is it OK to climb 10km of logging road on a trials bike, and if it is which is the best one? Sounds like you sure have no problems on your Sherco, and obviously you know your stuff, so maybe there was a problem with my Gas Gas. Thanks for whatever input you guys have, I'm sure my questions sound rediculous, but I'm halfway between a KTM 200 exc and a trials bike and thought this might be the place to ask. To picture the riding terrain here think "Last Man Standing" meets gnarly mountain bike trails Edited August 16, 2009 by corex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I think the Scorpa SY125 four stroke would cope with this very well (and there are probably some others too). But all of the 2t's would struggle as their cooling systems are not designed for this type of use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizza5 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 As Pete says the trials bike with such small radiaters and fan systems are designed for ''the slow stuff'' 4-strokes do cope a lot better I have a 4RT never touched the coolant it has been round the SSDT twice and loads of road based trials. And the 4RT is no ''Tortoise'' on the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 As Pete says the trials bike with such small radiaters and fan systems are designed for ''the slow stuff'' 4-strokes do cope a lot better I have a 4RT never touched the coolant it has been round the SSDT twice and loads of road based trials.And the 4RT is no ''Tortoise'' on the road 4rt every time it sounds like the tool for you, forget the scorpa if you want decent trials performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sectiononecleaner Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 4rt everytime, never had problem with mine and they like rockets on road. Although im changing bike to new manufacture for 2010 cannot comment on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I should mention I live in BC Canada, so I'm usually climbing pretty hard on logging roads. My Gas Gas would overheat to quick to really have fun, and I always felt like I was killing it ( not in the good way ). Are the 4 strokes any better than 2 strokes at speed for long periods? I guess what I'm asking is, is it OK to climb 10km of logging road on a trials bike, and if it is which is the best one? Sounds like you sure have no problems on your Sherco, and obviously you know your stuff, so maybe there was a problem with my Gas Gas. Thanks for whatever input you guys have, I'm sure my questions sound rediculous, but I'm halfway between a KTM 200 exc and a trials bike and thought this might be the place to ask. To picture the riding terrain here think "Last Man Standing" meets gnarly mountain bike trails Well the constant long climbs at speed would indeed be a different problem . A 4rT may indeed get on better in those conditions. Steve Fracy lives up there and rides the 4T Sherco. Would have to ask him how it does in the logging roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for artie Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) Mont 4RT is the bike you need. They don't overheat. Best bike for the trail. Most reliable for those long BC mountain rides. Totally flogable. Edited August 16, 2009 by for artie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1sherco1 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 for long rides flatt out the trick is put the choke on because it alows more feul though and keeps it cooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corex Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Wow, lots of montesa riders! Sounds like 4 stroke is the way for me... Thanks for all the responses guys! Sounds like this might be managable after all. Anyone have experience with how the Sherco would hold up for this application? Shercos are easier to find around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for artie Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) For the type of riding you have described the Mont is better than the Sherco 4T. Can't beat Mont's Fuel Injection. Here is one For Sale in Vancouver 2007 Monty Edited August 16, 2009 by for artie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 For the type of riding you have described the Mont is better than the Sherco 4T. Can't beat Mont's Fuel Injection.Here is one For Sale in Vancouver 2007 Monty Do sherco have the starting problem sorted on the 4t. I wouldn't want to break down, exhausted from kicking the thing and then hello grizzly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizza5 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 and then hello grizzly! ................one look at you Andrew and the Grizzly would run back into the forest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzralphy Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I love the Beta 4T it runs more consistent than my 2T used to run. Get a Beta EVO 4T 300cc. It is jetted rich from the factory and will run flat out all day with no issues. It is a much cheeper bike too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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