pedronicman Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Not too sure about that statement I meant model 80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 thanks for all your help,Iwill stamp frame in correct place,Myson I wouldn't do that if I were you as you have no way of knowing whether that engine is the original one for your frame. A frame with that number could be out there somewhere and if it is registered to someone else you will run into all sorts of problems when you apply for a registration number for yours. Alarm bells will go off in DVLA when it flags up that a bike already exists with that frame number. It's nearly 40 years old now and in that time you have no way of knowing what previous owners have done. Engines could have been swapped, the original chassis could have been sold as a rolling chassis and someone has it with another engine fitted now - permutations are endless. It isn't uncommon for engine and frame numbers not to match from the factory though. I have a model 80 on which the numbers differ and it was registered that way back in 1972. Also have a model 49 and two model 92 with non-matching numbers, all registered that way. You can check whether there is a bike already registered with that frame number by applying for an HPI check on that frame number. It will tell you if it is exists as a registered vehicle and if so, whether there is anything flagged against it, stolen, write-off etc. Or it will tell you if there is no trace - ie; there is not a vehicle registered with that frame number - even then I'd be wary about stamping it as the frame could still exist and if someone else then tries to register it in the future you could still have trouble from DVLA. If there is definitely no number on your frame, might be worth hunting around for another one and use that as you know that the number will be correct, it may even be registered already (use HPI check if thre is no V5) - doesn't matter whether the engine/frame matches or not. John Collins or Bultaco UK have loads of used parts and you may get one from either. If you get one that is damaged beyond repair, use the number from it on yours but make sure the donor frame never leaves your posession - better still, chop it up and take it out of circulation. Whatever you do, be very careful when stamping numbers on frames, especially if you're going to aply for a V5, if you do not know for certain the legitimacy of the number you're using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedronicman Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 thanks for all your help,Iwill stamp frame in correct place,Myson Also added to what Woody has just said , at a certain period in the early to mid 70's Bultaco produced/ exported bikes in kit form to get around the heavy spanish export laws/costs at that time. They would export an engine seperately from as chassis kit in batches , so the importer would take one engine and one chassis kit and build and sell the bike like that. It was very common to have a new Sherpa of that time with a different engine and frame number but not to far apart but not the same. So no i wouldn't hurry into stamping the same number on the frame!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_weedon Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) Well I never! Never seen one down there! But we dont see many model 10's about these days. Edited November 15, 2009 by wayne_weedon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myson Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Good spot, I will check frame again, thanks, the info is great, Myson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_weedon Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Know any friendly policemen? Someone like that might be able to determine if that frame number is already registered. Wayne..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myson Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I have actually, good idea, thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomey68 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Not too sure about that statement I have an early M-49 that has the frame numbers stamped in the same spot as the M-10 frame in the pics. Took me a while to find it, thought it had no numbers :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myson Posted November 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Is that next to the footrest mounting? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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