spinningplates Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 (edited) TSR 22 A Stop Permitted From the ACU Hand Book 2009 DEFINITIONS. Clean: A rider traversing a Section as defined above without penalty as described under FOOTING or FAILURE shall be unpenalised and given a Edited December 18, 2009 by spinningplates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrsunt Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 I'm guessing i am the rider in question here, as far as i thought my handlebar stayed off the ground and my knee took the brunt of the fall, still have the scar to prove it. the bike was virtually laid on its side with my other leg pointing skyward. I thought it was a dodgy 2, but its one of those incedents where it was down to observer descretion. We as riders have to take the rough with the smooth, there are plenty of marks which we get away with on a proffesional level, i.e toes touching the ground but feet still on the pegs! The rules dont make it easy for observing and riders will bend the rules as far as possible. In my opinion any rider who is stationary with a foot down (or any other body part) it should be a instant 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m&s Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 I'm guessing i am the rider in question here, as far as i thought my handlebar stayed off the ground and my knee took the brunt of the fall, still have the scar to prove it. the bike was virtually laid on its side with my other leg pointing skyward. I thought it was a dodgy 2, but its one of those incedents where it was down to observer descretion. We as riders have to take the rough with the smooth, there are plenty of marks which we get away with on a proffesional level, i.e toes touching the ground but feet still on the pegs! The rules dont make it easy for observing and riders will bend the rules as far as possible. In my opinion any rider who is stationary with a foot down (or any other body part) it should be a instant 5. Not you actually as the rider in question acknoledged the fact his bars were on the ground. Your comment just shows how tricky it is to make a judgement under the current rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdmc Posted December 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 The actual situation happened at the recent ES Myers Trial in Yorkshire. I was the observer and it was not JRSUNT who questioned my interpretaion of the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishy Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I think it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordi Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Only two good rules made in the past twenty years were time limits, one to stop riders p***ing about in the section all day and the other to stop them taking all day to do the first lap. Would agree with that. Only problem is that no one times a section under a National. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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