wherry Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I managed to hit my rear brake pedal on a stump the other day and bent it out a bit. Who can tell me the procedure I need to follow to bend it back into shape? It's aluminium and I'm assuming it will be better heated a bit first, but how hot, and quenched afterwards or not? It's a 315R one if that makes any difference to anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 (edited) You lucky sod......My 315 rear brake snapped like a carrot (a replacement was Edited May 6, 2010 by HAM2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnieboy Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 im not 100 % sure but i think you put soap on ally and when it turns black its warm enough be steady theres a fine line between it bending and snapping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Aluminum work hardens as in... when it is bent it gets harder. Hard metals want to break rather than bend so you need to soften it prior to bending. You heat and then allow to cool prior to bending. I have used two methods to get the correct heating temperature. One was to coat the area with a black magic marker (it probably has a different name in the UK). The other was to coat with acetylene soot. (I suspect that the soap trick is similar.) Heat until the marker or soot is burned off. I straighted a Beta cast brake pedal that was bent into a full U shape. Since it was such a sever bend, I did it in three steps stopping to soften the metal in between steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseape1000 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 If it's only a bit, you'll be fine with it hot......if it's folded in half, you're screwed ! Never heard the soap thing before. Don't need to get it glowing, just " spit rolling off " hot ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richt Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 You can do the soap trick when heating it up and then keep it hot for a while, but you must let the Ally cool as slow as possible (Don't quench it) this is refered to as 'Normalising' When you bend Ally it will 'Work Harden' so when I have straightened brake and clutch levers I normalise them again so they are more likely to just bend and not snap off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Soap turns brown at the annealling temprature, think its 560 degrees (but it was 30 years since I read it). If the material is cast it has different properties and any amount of softning won't necessarily work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Here is a good web site to check out concerning alluminium,. http://www.tinmantech.com/html/aluminum_alloys_continued.php You will see that different types of alluminium require different procedures. Some need to be softened by fast quenching whilst others require a different approach. Let us know how you get on. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherry Posted May 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Thanks for all your help, guys. It's not bent too much so hopefully I'll be able to straighten it OK. I will let you know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherry Posted May 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 For those about to bend We salute you. Mr Ham, Sir, you are The Man. I pressed the bearing and seals out, stuck it in a vice and heated it gently with a Propane torch, whilst keeping a bit of pressure on it with a big spanner. It resisted and resisted and then slowly bent a bit. Then stopped. I heated it a bit more and it gently went again. Repeated a couple more times and it's now better than when I got the bike. Looking good. The only probelm I can foresee is that I'll miss it the first few times I need it until I get used to it being further in. Cheers, mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 That's good to know, well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Wahey.. like the ACDC reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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