the artist formerly known as ish Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 When you go to buy a new car, your options are base model base price, and adding extra's adds cost. I see many posts on adding things to bikes like the fat bars, wheels with no rimbands etc, these can be personal choice or an improvement over the stock item, bottom line it comes down to cost. It must be cheaper to put the part on at the factory, than replace with an upgrade after you have bought the machine, in MX it's after market bits and a whole shed load to choose from, trials is so small aftermarket parts are not a big industry so fewer are about. What if these options were available before you bought the bike!! would you put in an order for the new machine with your dealer tricked out with anodized gold rims, fat bars, acront rims, CD payer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Not sure about factory options on dirt bikes, however on BMW Roadbikes you can order factory options as follows - Different Screens Pannier mounts ABS Brakes Paint schemes Tyre choices Electronically adjustable suspension at the press of a button Radio/CD players Different gearbox ratio's Additional driving lights. On bikes - BMW are at the fore-front of factory options in biking and virtually every new bike is'built to order' on a 3 month factory waiting time. Don't expect to go into the dealer today and get a new bike for this Sat...most are pre-sold. The benefits are happy owners getting what they want, the factory knows in advance what to produce, so they don't end up with a surplus of unsold stock to unload onto the market (checkout Triumph,Yam and Honda roadbikes), which keeps residual values higher than other marques. After taking delivery of their new steed, most owners then fit aftermarket parts from numerous sources, just like Trials riders............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasserboy Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 abs on a trial bike cuould work!! what about traction control and a roll cage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Having recently toured the Sherco factory I doubt that options would ever be possible, but think the route they could go down would be for the importers to do it, or better still offer a true works replica like the Raga thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftypiggy Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 What was the Sherco factory like Nigel? Lloyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Are you on broadband? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftypiggy Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Yep...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrc2002 Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 I think its better for trials after market parts, gives you the chance to play around with the bike and even the smallest of parts can make it feel like a new bike all over again. You must remember that every rider is different and each rider will have their own personal feel for a bike...take Dougies bike, not standard, but if we were to ride it, we'd probably hate it...who knows. Aftermarket parts allow you to add that little personal prefrence to your bike, which is great...the cost is a bit of a kick in the nuts. After market parts are a little boring in the trials line, if you seen one thing, you've seen it all. Every website sells the same things. However its interesting when someone posts a japanese parts website with things we've not really seen before... Although, in all seriousness, Id be suprised if a few of you brought parts from japanese sites...is it really worth all the currency conversion, delivery costs, complications...and if theres a problem, a translator? In my opinion, standard bikes are the best the manufactures can make at the lowest cost...what you do after it is up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuessenhigh Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Personally I'd much rather add bits myself afterwards....after all...its a good excuse to get out the house and tinker with the bike in the evening. Imagine having to stay in and watch the box with the missus every night!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky boy Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 This is one thing that has always frustrated me about trials in general. As has been said you can get all sorts of bolt on,stick on paste on type stuffin mx and nearly all other sports that are a bit different . And for trials ...nowt really. Why , mainly cos most riders dont want to be remotely different !! Comments like "why have you done that" and "oh looks nice but how long will that last" really pis$ me off. Are they frightened to be different cos if they look like straying from the norm the mrs will bollock em?? I remember when the scorpa first came out folks were saying how crap the fat bars were , and then ....BINGO gas gas bring out a bike a few years later and they are great and its ok to like em !! I think the most of the problem is that us folks who dont/cant afford a new bike regularly are in the definate minority !! And so why change or modify yer bike if you dont intent to keep it that long.?? (although nobody thinks of just changing over the bits) and who cares if you all keep jumping on each others bikes cos they are identicle. And before anyone tries to have a go at me its 5 years since i bought my last bike !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartc Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Aye it will be 5 years, that is how long he has been trying to sell it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 And before anyone tries to have a go at me its 5 years since i bought my last bike !!! So you never did get your 4rt then???????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuessenhigh Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Heres another slant on the topic. Having already said that I would rather add bits myself, than have the factory do it, I dont to be honest tend to add anything anyway. Agree with you mostly Marky Boy..but there are some people who maybe think, that they just like they way their bikes look standard anyway. I guess it depends on if we are talking about changing the way a bike looks..or the way it performs??......personally I think my Beta is the best looking bike on the planet standard!! ...so I dont really wanna see it change. But I DO keep adding lots of scratches and dents to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cota kid Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 I can't see why someone hasn't stormed the market with graphics, like the trialstar kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrc2002 Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 I just brought a silencer with a straight pipe and it is longer then the standard (mitani one). Riding round the car park today after fixing the bike up, and the noticable difference is HUGE, now the bike actually pulls properly like its supposed to rather then with the standard montesa silencer. I think a lot of the parts we look at we think wont make that much of a difference to the performance of our bikes, but they really do!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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