nick60 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Hello everyone, I'm a newbie to Trials Central would be very grateful for a little advice. I've been riding on the road for over 30 years and now that I live in Bulgaria I'm looking to buy a trials bike to have some fun in the hills near where I live. No competition riding, just weekend fun. I currently ride a 650cc dualsport but it's just too heavy offroad and I don't want a motoX bike. I will have to cover 20 or so miles each way on the road to get to where I can really use the bike so it has to be road reg which means lights and indicators, and something with a reasonable seat. I'm thinking of a Yamaha TY250, twinshock or mono ( I remember from my youth that they can manage 50+ mph to deal with traffic ) or a Beta TR 34/35 So my questions... Q1 Am I nuts to think this is a good idea? Q2 Can I fit a lighting coil to the generator so that I can fit lights/horn? I've just read a post where a young lad was recommended to consider a Sorpa 125 longride as a relatively roadworthy option. Any comments or advice will be very much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_nc Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 TY250 comes stock with a lighting coil (and lights). Most have been removed but it was there when bought. That said: Bit of a stretch to ride 50 miles on roads and then ride in the woods for several hours and ride 50 miles back on roads. The gearing you want for Trials would make your road speed either very slow or reving way more than you would want for a long distance. They do make things called "long ride" seats. Don't forget you are talking a 35 plus year/old/bike. Trailers are fairly cheap. Just some thoughts. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Another suggestion is the Beta Alp or Gas Gas Pampera,locally they do very well in the trail bike class but have a decent seat and lights etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick60 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 TY250 comes stock with a lighting coil (and lights). Most have been removed but it was there when bought. That said: Bit of a stretch to ride 50 miles on roads and then ride in the woods for several hours and ride 50 miles back on roads. The gearing you want for Trials would make your road speed either very slow or reving way more than you would want for a long distance. They do make things called "long ride" seats. Don't forget you are talking a 35 plus year/old/bike. Trailers are fairly cheap. Just some thoughts. Alan Thank you for your input Alan. Your points are noted, though I don't intend to do more than 20 miles each way on asphalt. Presumably a lighting coil can be retro fitted then. Are they available? Do the later TY250R mono verions come with a lighting coil too? I have never seen one with lights. Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick60 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Another suggestion is the Beta Alp or Gas Gas Pampera,locally they do very well in the trail bike class but have a decent seat and lights etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick60 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Another suggestion is the Beta Alp or Gas Gas Pampera,locally they do very well in the trail bike class but have a decent seat and lights etc. Again, thank you for your input Jon. I've looked these bikes up on the web... not really what I want and too new for my budget but I appreciate the suggestions. I don't compete, but like to ride in out-of-the-way places. I want a slow, torquey bike for ambling around, disturbing walkers and shepherds ( yes, really ) as little as possible. I ride, I stop and enjoy the scenery, I ride some more etc. And I'd like to learn new skills albeit at my own pace, which I don't think I'll do on a faster trail/MX bike. I'm pretty sure it's an older trials bike that I need ( perhaps marginally geared up ). I do have a friend with an old Bultaco 350 Sherpa who I may ride with on occasion but on the whole I ride alone. Just trying to give a better picture of my desired use of my intended "new" bike. All thoughts are appreciated though, which is why I made this post. Thank you, Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Again, thank you for your input Jon. I've looked these bikes up on the web... not really what I want and too new for my budget but I appreciate the suggestions. I don't compete, but like to ride in out-of-the-way places. I want a slow, torquey bike for ambling around, disturbing walkers and shepherds ( yes, really ) as little as possible. I ride, I stop and enjoy the scenery, I ride some more etc. And I'd like to learn new skills albeit at my own pace, which I don't think I'll do on a faster trail/MX bike. I'm pretty sure it's an older trials bike that I need ( perhaps marginally geared up ). I do have a friend with an old Bultaco 350 Sherpa who I may ride with on occasion but on the whole I ride alone. Just trying to give a better picture of my desired use of my intended "new" bike. All thoughts are appreciated though, which is why I made this post. Nick. A Yamaha xt225 Serow would fit the bill perfectly,nice and quiet,totally reliable and cheap.Decent fuel range,low seat and soft motor - the list goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_nc Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Nick, On the TY250's Most people don't actually remove the lighting coil - they just remove the lights. The lights command quite a price on Ebay most of the time but if you don't mind one with dents or scratches you can pick one up for a few dollars. I think even 20 miles on a TY250 would be pushing it. Mine are geared so that in 5th you are doing maybe 40 or 50 with the engine running a high RPM. Suzuki used to make a TC185 with a dual selector gear box. Had five speeds and a selector to change from low range to high range. Might be a thought. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick60 Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Nick, On the TY250's Most people don't actually remove the lighting coil - they just remove the lights. The lights command quite a price on Ebay most of the time but if you don't mind one with dents or scratches you can pick one up for a few dollars. I think even 20 miles on a TY250 would be pushing it. Mine are geared so that in 5th you are doing maybe 40 or 50 with the engine running a high RPM. Suzuki used to make a TC185 with a dual selector gear box. Had five speeds and a selector to change from low range to high range. Might be a thought. Alan Hello again Alan, I'm taking on board what people are saying... it seems that most people think I'm looking for the wrong bike for what I want to do. That's exactly why I'm asking as I don't have a lot of cash and can't afford to waste it on the wrong bike. Thanks for your input. I follow up every suggestion with some internet research so please keep the advice coming. Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick60 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 A big "thank you" to Alan and Jon for your replies. I have taken on board what you have said and am now looking at something more practical for what I intend to use the bike for, Yamaha DT 175 or 250. Prices are within my range and lights etc are fitted as standard. Once again, Thank you. Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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