charlie prescott Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hi Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Hi Guy's Just remembered what I forgot to say, that James has got his outfit for sale if you are interested. Asking price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big john Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Got to be careful there, if both machines exist and the frame and motor numbers are identical then there is a legal matter that the DVLA would pursue vigourously, as there should never be two machines using the same registration mark. Prosecution and impounding of the vehicles and eventually crushing is an option open to the authorities. Effectively "ringing". Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted December 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 Hi Guy's Hi Big "J" Well I can assure you that I owned the bike XJO 277. and so do the DVLA if they look up the records. So I do not have a problem with that. I have a photo in an ORR reference library Vol two page 65 with Arthur and Colin Pinder aboard. In The same volume on page 27 there is a picture of Dan Shorey and me in the 1962 Tanners Trudge. My first day passengering for Dan. I was unfortunately described has a female in this shot (what-ever). Regards Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawil Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 hi it was not unusual for works bikes to end up with the same reg nos , a few years ago when i was devolping the fantic outfits one of our first big events was the inter centre team trial held near banbury , although we rode for different centres at one group of sections we parked the three outfits in a row ,a well respected journalist (the late rafe venables) called me over as he had noticed they all had the same reg no a quick check on the tax discs , i had the original but the others were duplicates , roy carey (the fantic importer )declined to comment.if charlie wants some info on 60s-70s chairs i can assist having built most of the ones i have ridden over the years including the first fantic for the factory in italy,the latest being on a 1953 panther last year on which i have just ridden the talmag, my first outing for 7 years will hawkes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted February 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Hi Guy's, Hi Will. Welcome to TC. I have finished the frame work for the Kendell replica sidecar, to fit to the Ariel HS frame, has I am building that up as a replica of the outfit that Dan Shorey and myself used to ride. But I have a BSA, frame C15T WD type, and have pulled the seat tubes in, this frame is now redundant has I have pinched the WD B40 motor for another project. So what sprung to mind was to put a chair onto this, has I am building up a 300cc BSA engine unit, and this would make a good test bed. So any information about 70-80 ies type chair's dimensions ETC would be more than welcome, Will. Regards Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ask greeves Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 hi it was not unusual for works bikes to end up with the same reg nos , a few years ago when i was devolping the fantic outfits one of our first big events was the inter centre team trial held near banbury , although we rode for different centres at one group of sections we parked the three outfits in a row ,a well respected journalist (the late rafe venables) called me over as he had noticed they all had the same reg no a quick check on the tax discs , i had the original but the others were duplicates , roy carey (the fantic importer )declined to comment.if charlie wants some info on 60s-70s chairs i can assist having built most of the ones i have ridden over the years including the first fantic for the factory in italy,the latest being on a 1953 panther last year on which i have just ridden the talmag, my first outing for 7 years will hawkes. Bob and Me thought you had died (from eating toooo much meow meow)..Slip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Hi Guy's. For you Deryk. I will add one note. that I remember. When we first got the bike off of the Pickup. Nobby said it should have the funny forks on. These had been removed and replaced with a brand new pair of BSA forks. And a single sided Gold Star front brake. I found the forks OK , they did twist on occasions , but were good for the job, the fork yokes were from a different model. I think for use with a sidecar fitted. As i said I eventually removed the Alloy bolt on body and made one from glass fiber even moulding the nose. Issue number 19 ORR. if I remember , is a picture of Dan and me on the Ariel that I am replicating, on the inside front cover or just after, I will have to look it out. Regards Charlie www.bsaotter.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Hi Guys, Thanks Deryk, I would love a copy of that photo, and any more you have, just let me. Know how much I owe you . But I do already!!! You have started something again ? I bet other guys will want other stuff from the Off Road Review era? Best tail I have written on here is named " Ron and Doug" heroes . Type it in, A tail for Christmas maybe?? Just searched out an old photo of Ted Freeman riding my Triumph Cub in 1963 ? First one out of the factory with the side points!!!!! But that's another tail. Just thought of someone I need to contact again from the sidecar forum? Used to ride a works BSA passenger that is!! Laters . Regards Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted December 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Hi Guys, Hi Deryk. What I remember most from the sixties chair scene, Is the amount of outfits about then. DK Mansell, ETC ,always 100 plus chairs, and all crews the best of mates. Some stood out more than others, but only because they were loud characters. Roy Cope was one ,the guy would always have a go at every section ,usually flat out ,Passenger Aub Smith did not say a lot unless arguing with Roy about there last section attempt ,but just hung on. Some of the Northern boys were vocal, but I could not understand a word most of them said then. Well I did grow up in an isolated village ,and only spoke North Oxfordshire, I did understand the Cotswold boys though and for some reason the boys from Devon and Cornwall Much the same dialect I have been told. Such such fun , I can't believe we have let it slip away. One little isolated pocket is the IOM though. Regards Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted December 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 Hi Guys, Hi Deryk, I know what you mean about people that don't know who you are, and what you have done for the sport!! It Realy makes my blood boil at times, but we are the old timers and long forgotten in most cases. I feel I have been bashing my head against a wall for years, but still keep on the fight for what I ,think is the way to encourage all classes to once again compete. And I will continue with passion as long has I can, for the cause of Classic British Trials Bikes.. yes Arthur had XJO the proper one. But by the time of the picture you published in ORR, above. Alas there was probably not that much left of the original bike I owned, except the plate. The proper bike was probably sat in the corner of one of his workshops. This bike has the Bulto forks hub etc, and a Kendall chair fitted, Looks like a small finned engine aswell. But The plot was Classed. Has British and know one took a second glance at the Spanish bits, at that time. So why oh why do we. Need the fiddle forks now. Another thing ,if you had have heard this bike on full chat up a steep climb, you would known the outfit was BRITISH and nothing else. Regards Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted January 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hi Guys, That's my bike Deryk, Less the forks has I said, but with the same dents in the exhaust, Yesssssssss? Regards Charlie. Www.bsaotter.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted February 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Hi Deryk. Looks like you fixed it good then!!. Don't forget Pete, sorry Arthur, was the one that eventually bought the ex BSA works Goldie XJO277, the one above with Frank and Bill riding. Frank had a pair of Reynolds forks built for the bike before his own built trailing link ones that just did not steer. Anyway when the Reynolds were on the bike he rang Ken Sprayson up one Monday morning after a trial at the week end, complaining that the forks had bent badly, it was not until later when Ken took a look at a picture taken at the trial, with XJO277 rapped firmly around a large tree that the truth was out why they had distorted. So Deryk this just proves the power of a good Photo shot, and you have most of that time. Most people just did not carry cameras about then did they. Keep up the good work with ORR-e. Regards Charlie. Edited February 14, 2015 by charlie prescott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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