fantic200 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 i couldnt belive it when my friend said that white brother were in administation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydo Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 i couldnt belive it when my friend said that white brother were in administation IF this is correct then its very sad news - I have personally known and dealt with Derek and co over many years and I always found them to be very straight and honest people to do business with - I for one hope they can find a way through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrcmonty Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 well their site is down. sad to hear another dealer is affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabby Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 That's a real pity, I've bought a number of bikes from them over the years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big john Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 This is not good news for the sport. White Bros as a firm is about 80 years old. Derek White is a decent guy, lot of respect for him not only as a dealer but as a fair businessman. Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taff_d Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 That's Armstrongs, Petite & France now White's gone in the last year and a half we only have Tilsons left for the big stuff now, a sorry state to be in. With next years price and VAT increase a new R1 will be nearly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 mototrcycling boomed in the late 90's and early 21st century based on availability of cheap money. As money has become more expensive ( if you can get it at all) many are reviewing there 'must haves' and like cars, big ticket purchases have declined in number ironically sales of less expensive items phones tellys media etc have rocketed. no ones evry going to make anything nore than a living from trials and barely that i suspect. although the resession is officially over ( and if your a teacher work in the nhs or other public services you might say what recession) for many it is still very real and belt tightening is very much the order of the day. look out of the window.. are there as many outdoor xmas lights down your street as there were last year.. sad to see an established name in difficulties ( although administration is far from a death sentance) and i'm sure we all hope that they can weather the storm and exit it to fight another day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I reported this at the weekend, bloody shame Recession over...................I don't think so, it's only just begun Now the Public Sector 'gravy trian' is gonna feel, what real life is all about I heard yesterday, in the trade that Yamaha are going up 10% in Jan and all the other Japs will follow 4RT's will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big john Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I reported this at the weekend, bloody shame Recession over...................I don't think so, it's only just begun Now the Public Sector 'gravy trian' is gonna feel, what real life is all about I heard yesterday, in the trade that Yamaha are going up 10% in Jan and all the other Japs will follow 4RT's will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 They can increase prices all they want, the buying public want "deals", so they will simply not buy! Simple as that, if you don't have the money or can't get it, it aint gonna happen! Big John Totally agree, can't keep just rising prices when people aren't buying already Shame about White Bros.............long time since they opened in 1919 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 ''Totally agree, can't keep just rising prices when people aren't buying already'' they can and will for the foresseable future. money is expensive to borrow so that impacts the cost base, oil prices are high, gas and electric prices are increasing and thus so does the cost base, the number of units sold are down so economies of scale are eroded so cost base rises. its all simple basic stuff a generation are going to have to learn to save for stuff rather than buy on the never never and it wil be a painful process. only those in recession proof public sector jobs ( eg teachers breaking up now for 3 weeks off) will be able to carry on as normal ( we spend more on pensions for teachers each week than the salaries of all our armed forces each week..) sad to say that any business with borrowings and with a product where alternatives are available for less money is goingto struggle for in 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Only those in recession proof public sector jobs will be able to carry on as normal Ain't that the rub......................the public sector IS NOT recession proof..................haven't you heard yet, 20% are going straight to Jobcentre Plus in 2011 Merry Christmas There will be no money in the economy in 2011, low interest rates haven't worked, quantative easing hasn't worked.............what's next - public sector - 'slash and burn' Inflation is rising, cost of living is rising - but there is no money in the economy............unemployment is rising and will maybe top out at 4million in the next 2 years Business failures will continue Grim reading ain't it Welcome to UKPLC 2011...............and 10 years of pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sectiononecleaner Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Hells bells not christmas bells for you boys. Its certainly doom and gloom with you. Chill out its christmas, enjoy it, embrace it then refelct on it. Posativity not negativity. Yeah its a fact we as a nation are having problems. We didnt complain when bikes were so cheap did we? New one every year for many i rememeber those days. Good times. Merry Christmas to you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 ''Totally agree, can't keep just rising prices when people aren't buying already'' they can and will for the foresseable future. money is expensive to borrow so that impacts the cost base, oil prices are high, gas and electric prices are increasing and thus so does the cost base, the number of units sold are down so economies of scale are eroded so cost base rises. its all simple basic stuff a generation are going to have to learn to save for stuff rather than buy on the never never and it wil be a painful process. only those in recession proof public sector jobs ( eg teachers breaking up now for 3 weeks off) will be able to carry on as normal ( we spend more on pensions for teachers each week than the salaries of all our armed forces each week..) sad to say that any business with borrowings and with a product where alternatives are available for less money is goingto struggle for in 2011 Teachers do not get 3 weeks off at christmas, you are talking out your ar$e. The teachers of this country by and large do a brilliant job, if you think its so easy why don't you do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Ain't that the rub......................the public sector IS NOT recession proof..................haven't you heard yet, 20% are going straight to Jobcentre Plus in 2011 Merry Christmas There will be no money in the economy in 2011, low interest rates haven't worked, quantative easing hasn't worked.............what's next - public sector - 'slash and burn' Inflation is rising, cost of living is rising - but there is no money in the economy............unemployment is rising and will maybe top out at 4million in the next 2 years Business failures will continue Grim reading ain't it Welcome to UKPLC 2011...............and 10 years of pain very true but why have we heard diddly squat about whats happened to the banks and city bonuses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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