tomtom385 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Hi, wondering if anyone can help, i am thinking of fitting a tow bar on my vehicle for a bike rack but need to know the wieght of a 198A Bully, i thought about 140kg?????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Is that with the rider..... Weight is around 95kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom385 Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Is that with the rider..... Weight is around 95kg blimey mate, with the rider more like a 1000kg ha ha. seriously thanks for the info, i think that 95kg's is just within the towbars nose weight limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydo Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 blimey mate, with the rider more like a 1000kg ha ha. seriously thanks for the info, i think that 95kg's is just within the towbars nose weight limit. I doubt it ! nose weight for family type cars is around 50 kgs 4x4 upto 100 kgs so 'Wet bike' weight + rack weight =??? and this will be pushing you to the upper of upper limit at best! - what this means is the maximum 'dead' weight to be imparted directly on to the tow ball. Exceed this and the handling and potential saftey (tendancy to lift the front of the car) is impeeded. Also there could be issues regarding insurance.(and those buggers will take any 'cop out' action they can these days) A trailer is always a safer and more vehicle friendly means of transport for your bike - although not half as convenient! If you must use a rack - ensure that the towbar is more than adequate in its own strength - a rack imparts a twisting action as well as a up/down bounce action and be satisfied how the thing is attached to the vehicles chassis/body - the loading of a rack on a car is entirely different to the way in which a trailer imparts its load to a car extra plating at attachment points should be considered. Vehicles supension also may need stiffening. - If in doubt talk to a towbar fitter / engineer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 well. i used a rack on the back of a ford escort van to carry an old yamaha trail bike.. didnt know it was there. i had one on a punto and an original vw polo to carry at variuos times a cub, cota 247, greeves, and even a 320 royal enfield bullet. granted when i took the rack offf the polo to sell the car there was some bending of the floor pan but nothing to worry me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty_jon Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 well. i used a rack on the back of a ford escort van to carry an old yamaha trail bike.. didnt know it was there. i had one on a punto and an original vw polo to carry at variuos times a cub, cota 247, greeves, and even a 320 royal enfield bullet. granted when i took the rack offf the polo to sell the car there was some bending of the floor pan but nothing to worry me.. Same here, I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom385 Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I doubt it ! nose weight for family type cars is around 50 kgs 4x4 upto 100 kgs so 'Wet bike' weight + rack weight =??? and this will be pushing you to the upper of upper limit at best! - what this means is the maximum 'dead' weight to be imparted directly on to the tow ball. Exceed this and the handling and potential saftey (tendancy to lift the front of the car) is impeeded. Also there could be issues regarding insurance.(and those buggers will take any 'cop out' action they can these days) A trailer is always a safer and more vehicle friendly means of transport for your bike - although not half as convenient! If you must use a rack - ensure that the towbar is more than adequate in its own strength - a rack imparts a twisting action as well as a up/down bounce action and be satisfied how the thing is attached to the vehicles chassis/body - the loading of a rack on a car is entirely different to the way in which a trailer imparts its load to a car extra plating at attachment points should be considered. Vehicles supension also may need stiffening. - If in doubt talk to a towbar fitter / engineer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom385 Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I doubt it ! nose weight for family type cars is around 50 kgs 4x4 upto 100 kgs so 'Wet bike' weight + rack weight =??? and this will be pushing you to the upper of upper limit at best! - what this means is the maximum 'dead' weight to be imparted directly on to the tow ball. Exceed this and the handling and potential saftey (tendancy to lift the front of the car) is impeeded. Also there could be issues regarding insurance.(and those buggers will take any 'cop out' action they can these days) A trailer is always a safer and more vehicle friendly means of transport for your bike - although not half as convenient! If you must use a rack - ensure that the towbar is more than adequate in its own strength - a rack imparts a twisting action as well as a up/down bounce action and be satisfied how the thing is attached to the vehicles chassis/body - the loading of a rack on a car is entirely different to the way in which a trailer imparts its load to a car extra plating at attachment points should be considered. Vehicles supension also may need stiffening. - If in doubt talk to a towbar fitter / engineer. Cheers Mate, It would be pushing it to the upper limet, sorry forgot to mention that vehicle is a combo van. the tow bars i have seen listed would need to be tweaked a little to make them stronger. its looking very much the trailer route. regards, tom, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty_jon Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Cheers Mate, It would be pushing it to the upper limet, sorry forgot to mention that vehicle is a combo van. the tow bars i have seen listed would need to be tweaked a little to make them stronger. its looking very much the trailer route. regards, tom, You wouldn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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