keychange Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hi - I need to upgrade my TLR200 shocks and there is little price difference between NJB Expert, Trikshoxs or Betors. I have no experience with any of them and I am a non competitive rider looking at mixed trial/trail use. Although I can envisage that I might try competition at clubman level at some stage. I seek opinions based on your experience with the various brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keychange Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Ah well in the absence of any advice - I have opted for NJB Expert - I have to say Norman's communications so far have been excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Ah well in the absence of any advice - I have opted for NJB Expert - I have to say Norman's communications so far have been excellent. Shame no one chimed in,I'm interested too,at least two of my bikes need new rear shocks and all I'd say is the Betor's on my TY250 lasted about 5 trials before they leaked..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) Shame no one chimed in,I'm interested too,at least two of my bikes need new rear shocks and all I'd say is the Betor's on my TY250 lasted about 5 trials before they leaked..... Blimey you do have some bad luck. Betor Pro's on my OSSA have done a year with no probs. I like them better than the NJB for looks but as i've not ridden the NJB's bit unfair to comment. Edited January 12, 2011 by Old trials fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Blimey you do have some bad luck. Betor Pro's on my OSSA have done a year with no probs. I like them better than the NJB. Yea,in some ways - the rh one leaked first and it rode better with only one damping.Then the other leaked and now I think I need to do something about it.(Being a trial rider I dont rush to spend money on it...) But the engine that I built in 06 which rattled annoyingly from the first time I ran it is still going strong.Its a bit of a personal thing building an engine that runs well AND lasts,I guess in this case it has lasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Yea,in some ways - the rh one leaked first and it rode better with only one damping.Then the other leaked and now I think I need to do something about it.(Being a trial rider I dont rush to spend money on it...) But the engine that I built in 06 which rattled annoyingly from the first time I ran it is still going strong.Its a bit of a personal thing building an engine that runs well AND lasts,I guess in this case it has lasted. Know the feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keychange Posted January 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Well thanks to Norman at NJB's great service my shocks arrived and they look great - although I hope its ok to fit them upside ( in relation to the label ). Now I just need the rain to stop long enough to take it for a ride - it's been a touch damp. Had a quick romp around our sodden garden with a couple of small logs etc and it feels very nice Edited January 12, 2011 by keychange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keychange Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I hope I haven't spoken too soon Norman tells me they have to go the other way up and that means the spring is in contact with the brake rod. My original Showa looks similar but I don't remember it contacting the rod - maybe my brake rod is set too high any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keychange Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Added to my concerns was the shock delivered looked nothing like what I ordered. However I have now figured out what has happened - in my original email to Norman I mentioned that while I was primarily trials interest I used it for light trail work - I have access to hundreds of acres of hilly farm land, gullies and rain forest to roam through - Norman suggested the Expert shock with a spring setting that would be suited to light trail work - what I didn't realise he was referring to the NJB Scrambles Expert shock rather than the Trials Expert. I fitted the shock the correct way up - and the brake rod is in constant contact with the lower spring. I took it out for a good ride log jumping and double log jumps ie: about 800mm high and it is a great improvement. I then went up a very steep track that I have avoided recently due to the wet conditions... I rode up easily and down again without a single foot down - the rear end has so much more traction - in short I am delighted. I am a little concerned that there will be wear on the brake rod ... but it's probably nothing to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrb505 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Hi Andrew, Couldn't you put a bit more of a bend in the brake rod as they are not straight to start with or at least the one my shed isn't (yes its still here) or maybe a washer behind the shock top and bottom just to space it out a little.If that doesn't work maybe a bit of fuel hose over the rod so it wears instead of the rod or spring. Sounds like the shocks work well and your getting into some serious riding Cheers Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keychange Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Hi Andrew, Couldn't you put a bit more of a bend in the brake rod as they are not straight to start with or at least the one my shed isn't (yes its still here) or maybe a washer behind the shock top and bottom just to space it out a little.If that doesn't work maybe a bit of fuel hose over the rod so it wears instead of the rod or spring. Sounds like the shocks work well and your getting into some serious riding Cheers Ross Good thinking Ross - I won't bend it as it is only just long enough now but a washer and fuel line could do the trick. Cheers Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keychange Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Norman form NJB has further clarified "The shocks are in fact trials shocks fitted with the same type of spring set up as the expert scrambles shock... The shocks for the TLR are to long to have only one standard spring (and the stress levels are to high with 4.5" of travel) so we use the combined springs which also have the advantage of multi rate. " All good ... now bugger off rain so I can use them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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