bondy Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 hi all dose anybody know were i can get a stronger hesdsteady? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 for what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondy Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 for what? for my sherpa 350T 199A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 for my sherpa 350T 199A Why do you need a stronger headstay? What happend to the one you have, did it break or do you think it will break? The standard one that came with the 199A is just fine IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 they were pants, which is why the later 199b's had the ally one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 they were pants, which is why the later 199b's had the ally one. They are out of steel, look here, detail left, mounted right: Just work fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Read my post, the later 199b's. Edited January 4, 2011 by Nigel Dabster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Read my post, the later 199b's. I have read your post, there was NO other headstay mounted than the one made out of steel. Maybe someone installed an other unit to Yours or one of the last reminding workers, - still employed in line with the welfare program that was initiated by the goverment-, that wrenched the last Bultocosbikes together from the remaining parts that where available in the factory was tired of searching and mounted what he found. If you have any doubts, ask Orlando Colander, he is one of the last remaining importer of bultaco motorcycles und parts and he is still in business too! -> www.orlandocalondersa.com Otherewise show me the part number ... there is none I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hewson Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Later headsteady from a 1982 199B 340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Later headsteady from a 1982 199B 340 thanks my dear hewson, perhaps we can share the apology? What you must take into account, (are you in the usa?) sometimes you cannot swap a parts book for specialist knowledge. It may well have been an outsourced supplier who didn't get paid and someone decided to make the steady they always needed but it was a factory part fitted to the late 340's, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I haven't written / said that it is impossible that someone changed the design or the headstay. But as I know there is no offical parts book and no offical photo around showing this bracket. Nevertheless the aluminium bracket is an improvement, because you don't have to bend the steel one down or loose one head nut + one head screw to get the headstay detached for more space to get f. ex. the engine removed. Juast as a reminder: the bikes build after the bancrupty of Bultaco where somekind special because the executive board wasn't involved in the production. BTW: Some Bultaco riders don't even mount the headstay, (Here the T199B EX Fred Michaud): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondy Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 They are out of steel, look here, detail left, mounted right: Just work fine? hi thanks for your photos ive got the headsteady on it was just awkward getting it on ill post photos when ive finished ive just got me wheels whats the best tape to use for the inner rim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa325 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) The standard pressed steel bracket will break if the bike is ridden in any sort of reasonable competition, if it is not repaired the frame will begin to bend, the backbone bends upwards and the front downtube bends inwards and hairline cracks will start in the downtube at the bottom engine mount and at the junction of the top triangular gusset and the downtube. All the 199B bikes I have seen have had the pressed steel bracket, so I would really like to see a detailed photo of the late factory alloy one fitted with the tank off. When I have seen photos of some english bikes with them fitted I just assumed they were a comerfords modification. Cheers Greg Edited January 4, 2011 by sherpa325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 The standard pressed steel bracket will break if the bike is ridden in any sort of reasonable competition, if it is not repaired the frame will begin to bend, the backbone bends upwards and the front downtube bends inwards and hairline cracks will start in the downtube at the bottom engine mount and at the junction of the top triangular gusset and the downtube. All the 199B bikes I have seen have had the pressed steel bracket, so I would really like to see a detailed photo of the late factory alloy one fitted with the tank off. When I have seen photos of some english bikes with them fitted I just assumed they were a comerfords modification. Cheers Greg Yep, totally right, to avoid any overstraining to the headstay it is necessary to mount the complete cylinderhead / headstay assambly together. Bending the headstay down for getting the engine better out of the frame is a bad idea, (you will overstress the steelplate, which later will cause that it cracks). Just unscrew only the two fastenings of the cylinderhead for getting loose the headstay is also not recommended, you can "wrap" the head. This is the problem of this kind of bracket. BTW: Why the headstay is not mounted to Mr. Michauds former Bultaco is a miracle to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Yep, totally right, to avoid any overstraining to the headstay it is necessary to mount the complete cylinderhead / headstay assambly together. Bending the headstay down for getting the engine better out of the frame is a bad idea, (you will overstress the steelplate, which later will cause that it cracks). Just unscrew only the two fastenings of the cylinderhead for getting loose the headstay is also not recommended, you can "wrap" the head. This is the problem of this kind of bracket. BTW: Why the headstay is not mounted to Mr. Michauds former Bultaco is a miracle to me. ...........because you are totally missing the point!!!! It may well be that fred's bike had the steel one and it broke, or more likely the frame top tube was bent and leaving the steady ooff allows it to go back.(NB depends which way its gone i have seen both) lots of things went "unnoteded" during the last production runs perhaps you would know from the parts book which bikes had motoplat and which femsa ignitions as both were fitted to 340's? of course not. The alloy steady was fitted by the factory the bikes were not modded by comerfords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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