old trials fanatic Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Changes to 2011 Trials Standing Regulations Section/ Route Marking It is recommended that routes be marked as follows: - Route A - Principle Route - Blue ( left) Red ( right) Route B - Yellow both sides Route C - White both sides Any further routes to be marked in a colour chosen by the Organiser In the above, the letters denote the severity of the sections in descending order ie Route A would be hardest, Route B next hardest and so on. Routes may be marked in their entirety in the colours shown, or the Organiser may mark appropriate diversions in these colours. Ideally, the coloured section of markers should be in the shape of an arrow, with the point toward the centre of the section Edited January 24, 2011 by Old trials fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timp Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Seems a good idea to me. Be a good idea if the ACU could find a source for a standard flag with an arrow shape for all clubs to use if they wish. If you already have good flags just wait till they need replacing then change to the standard flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furse Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I think it makes sense too, markers arent that expensive if you look on old flebay for setting out markers, only thing is they are square and I think it would be a pain to try and get an arrow to stay pointing in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasserguy Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Great Idea. Living on the border of 4 centres that all use differant colour marking systems does your head in each week. Just to top it not one uses that colour system. The sooner we have standard colours the better and then lets have a standard rider class instead of all these riders changing class every time they ride another centre. It's just so comfussing and even more so for new riders to the sport. They can't understand why we don't have ONE rule no matter what centre we ride in.... Gasserguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Great Idea. Living on the border of 4 centres that all use differant colour marking systems does your head in each week. Just to top it not one uses that colour system. The sooner we have standard colours the better and then lets have a standard rider class instead of all these riders changing class every time they ride another centre. It's just so comfussing and even more so for new riders to the sport. They can't understand why we don't have ONE rule no matter what centre we ride in.... Gasserguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) I think it makes sense too, markers arent that expensive if you look on old flebay for setting out markers, only thing is they are square and I think it would be a pain to try and get an arrow to stay pointing in! Reckon it would cost us i.r.o. Edited January 24, 2011 by Old trials fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petejohn Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Old trials fanatic the same thing is happening here. Someone has decided that this colour that colour for this and that. probably lost sleep over the decision. It is confusing for riders for the first 30 seconds. The important thing is that as long as someone sticks flags of whatever colour most are happy. So stick them in and they will come. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crasher Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Reckon it would cost us i.r.o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahams Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 It's true it would be great if there was consistency. Unfortunately by suggesting a single colour for each alternative route then to avoid confusion it has to be that they are arrows not just flags and that means the increased cost of flags is likely to be ongoing rather than a one off. Good job it's advisory and not mandatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wri5hty Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Fortunately this is almost exatly the system we use now, with small arrows (We use pairs of reds for the A route). If you go the wrong side of the arrow with your colour on it then you've got no one to blame but yourself. It works very well indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 We currently use red and blue for the intermediate route with the experts following the white deviation and the clubman following the yellow deviation. Works fine and as some have said if you go the wrong side of a flag or take the wrong route then it's your fault. However it's the arrows issue that is the problem as i cant figure a way of this working all day without it being firmly affixed to a post of some kind so it cant swivel round etc plus you will need them in all four colours. Our current "flags" are whatever i could find, usually made out of feed bags in the right colour, on bailing wire. Again works well enough. To have 400 stakes made c/w plastic coloured arrows that can swivel and be locked in position must cost at least a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 We currently use red and blue for the intermediate route with the experts following the white deviation and the clubman following the yellow deviation. Works fine and as some have said if you go the wrong side of a flag or take the wrong route then it's your fault. However it's the arrows issue that is the problem as i cant figure a way of this working all day without it being firmly affixed to a post of some kind so it cant swivel round etc plus you will need them in all four colours. Our current "flags" are whatever i could find, usually made out of feed bags in the right colour, on bailing wire. Again works well enough. To have 400 stakes made c/w plastic coloured arrows that can swivel and be locked in position must cost at least a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinshockdude Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 LETS JUST GO BACK TO ONE ROUTE - PROBLEM SOLVED !!!! IT WORKED OK IN THE 70`S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Once clubs gradually change to having the same coloured markers (regradless of design) and then start looking at how to introduce arrows then all the ACU clubs will be looking for the same solution. Therefore the potential to bulk buy, have something made bespoke to ACU trials becomes a real options. As the market would be there then the price should come down. We maybe need to think of the slightly longer term benefits rather than how will it effect us tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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