des Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Would there be an interest in police checking bikes at a trial in an effort to recover stolen property, remember innocent purchasers could not only loose the bike but also the money paid for it. second problem is if the bike has never been recorded road-reg then it becomes harder to confirm identification. What are peoples thoughts, on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 cant imagine why the ACU dont insist that all trials bikes have an acu issued logbook no stolen bike then could ever be ridden in a competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 cant imagine why the ACU dont insist that all trials bikes have an acu issued logbook no stolen bike then could ever be ridden in a competition I agree but when did you last have your bike looked over by anyone at a trial........what iam saying is hoiw would people react to having spot checks on their bikes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gii Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I've never found the Police to be very interested in recovering stolen property when I've been the victim, both privately and commercially. An employee of mine found a bag at a bus stop containing several thousands of pounds cash, and a currency exchange receipt with an address. When the police officer came to collect it, she made it very clear that doing so was a real nuisance to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 A load of dodgy bikes and engines were recently found at a Brands Hatch road race meeting, easier to trace as they came from bikes once reg'd on the road. Trials not as easy as many are never reg'd. Mind you a helicopter and around 50 coppers turned up at Brands after a lengthy investigation, I would be surprised if you would find 1 bike at 50 trials, in the main people who nick trials bikes are not trials riders they are joy riders wanting a trials bike or chancers trying to make a quick few quid. Probably too much admin for the acu to be involved unless of course there is a sudden surge in thefts maybe ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdmc Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 We tried this a few years ago at some of our trials. A discussion was had with the local police and it was agreed the club do a spot check on frame numbers and send them in . Did this for about 5 trials. Never recieved a acknowledement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I wonder if recovering stolen property would be a good business idea in our new big society. In my (like other contributors first hand) experience the police are not interested, even if you find it yourself you have to proove beyond doubt that the property is yours. I can see no reason why all bikes shouldn't be registered with tha DVLA but then I expect the civil service make such a meal of it that the cost would be prohibitive to many.Since being in a position to buy new bikes I have insured and registered them; the key cost there which puts many off is the cost of insurance in order to pay the road tax. Is there a system in place to simply register your bike, I think it's true to say that we in UK are unique in so much as we are not required by law to register "field" bikes. it's why we get our bikes a bit cheaper (non homolugated spec.).having wandered through this problem our situation seems to be terribly british. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig10 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 There is a scheme to register an off-roader with the DVLA purely for having the details registered, see this http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_067209.pdf I doubt the plod would be interested in spending a morning in a muddy field checking trials bikes, as already mentioned neds who nick off roaders are more likely to be tearing up the local parks etc than riding events. As an aside, I do know someone who did get a BSA C15 back after 10+ years after a friend of his saw it on ebay. Took a lot to get the plod motivated though, the 'owner' just accepted the fact, it had been through too many hands to trace it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 That registration scheme seems good to me, only time you may get a problem is the "homologation" proof when /if you want to tax it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_king Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 It is rare but some people do acquire stolen bikes and turn up at trails events. I saw it happen at an event a couple of years ago. The real owner was their riding his replacement bike and someone came over saying that he thought he had seen the stolen bike in the paddock. After much arguing and phone calls the the plod the guy who had "purchase" the bike ended up just handing the bike over. He was boosting that he bought this two year old bike for under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_scorpa3 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 The ACU started checking road race bikes back in the 90's, I wonder how many stolen bikes were found from this? Bear in mind that there are only one or two race meetings on at any one time and all road race bikes are scrutineered by trained officials anyway and that road bikes are generally more expensive than trials bikes, then you start to see the problems we would face try this at trials. It's never going to happen. It would take too long to check every frame and engine number at every trial, never mind cross referencing the info with stolen bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 It would be far to say that the key thing is to security mark all major parts on the bike. Record engine and frame numbers. Take good photos of it. and the more it stands out the better, different cheap quick mods help with. I have even toyed with the idea of data tag like my road bike.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 As Pete said, it won't happen. If there is concrete evidence with no shadow of a doubt like the Brands incident they may get involved. If you see some idiot thrashing a stolen bike round a sink estate and tip off the Bill then they may send some one round in a week or two if pushed, in the mean time said bike has been blown up burnt and is now in the river...... Don't hold your breath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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