hrcmonty Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Well BTC has gone to TSR22B, And no minders! 2012 could be an intresting year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phb Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Well BTC has gone to TSR22B, And no minders! 2012 could be an intresting year. So what's happening with the WTC ? Is that going the same way !!! now its clear why Y&G wanted non-stop rules, but does the majority of club riders want it(not just Y&G CLUB) Let all ACU trials riders have a vote and then its a fair system, not something which is imposed on them by a few Edited November 25, 2011 by PHB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Every club can chose as can any centre so a vote is already available. In fact every event can be either no stop or stop depending how each club want to organise it.Get along to your club or centre metings and ask for what you want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andat Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Well BTC has gone to TSR22B, And no minders! 2012 could be an intresting year. Jeeez another thread on no-stop...can we discuss no minders instead Edited November 25, 2011 by andat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 As long as the no stop supporters will accept at the end of 2012 that it hasn't made a jot of dofference to entries it could be a good experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andat Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 As long as the no stop supporters will accept at the end of 2012 that it hasn't made a jot of dofference to entries it could be a good experiment. I think we'll have to wait until the section plotters have done their bit first before we cast judgement on its success. What would be interesting would be to get rid of the support class routes and make every one ride the champ route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andat Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) I think we'll have to wait until the section plotters have done their bit first before we cast judgement on its success. What would be interesting would be to get rid of the support class routes and make every one ride the champ route. Just read a press realease on another website and apparently there will only be two routes presumable Championship and Minders Edited November 25, 2011 by andat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdc Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Let all ACU trials riders have a vote and then its a fair system, not something which is imposed on them by a few Just like all footballers vote on the off-side rule or all cricketers vote on lbw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Full changes here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 As long as the no stop supporters will accept at the end of 2012 that it hasn't made a jot of dofference to entries it could be a good experiment. Maybe give it a couple of seasons to properly bed in? There are only a few BTC events so that isn't many in one year to get a good idea of how things are working. I still see the biggest problem will be riders trying to hop on the move to get better lines as this is what happened before when it was tried. Some seemed to think that as long as they were hopping they hadn't stopped... It spawned that ridiculous phrase 'dynamic movement'. They didn't accept that bouncing around was not the same as moving forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj65 Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Really pleased with this, (I remember the recent past riders, like Doug and Grimbo etc were pretty dam good at it) it's much nicer to watch IMHO, the rider flows over the section, without all the faffing about stopping etc etc. If you want to see ridiculous big steps etc, then we've still got the indoor WTC and the two should be completely separate. I'm also pleased to hear about the minders, not because I don't care about the riders safety, it just annoys the hell out of me seeing them messing with the sections, the sections should be ridden as they are, without being interfered with, by either the rider or minder. Also, without all the minders being in/around the section, maybe we might get a better view of the rider riding the sections. Undoubtably things will be a bit hit and miss in the first year, but riders will adapt to the new rules and it will be the riders skill and intelligence that will win the day, not necessarily the one with the best minder or team. Grimbo use to ride quite a bit without a minder and was still in contention of winning, or won. Edited November 25, 2011 by JJ65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surgeonrocher Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 No minders, thank Christ for that! No more 'big effort' 'stand on it' 'lets hear it' or any of the other well worn shouts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 No minders, thank Christ for that! No more 'big effort' 'stand on it' 'lets hear it' or any of the other well worn shouts... Lets just hope this filters down to youth trials too as the "dads" are often louder than the bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasntme Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 Maybe someone can invent a device that beeps when the front wheel stops moving. A speedo sensor could be adapated. That way the rider knows he's stopped, as do the crowd and crucially the observer does too. The importers could supply at cost price to help promote no stop if this is their worry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 i just cant see where the extra entries will come from, moreover will a few lads prefer spain or italy if they are stop allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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