tony27 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I lost the rear brake today, I was showing the Ossa importer what was going on & he said it was time for a seal kit When I got home I looked on splatshop & they're out of stock, with AJP being out of business do we think they will be getting any more in? I talked to the Beta importer later on & he's sending me a 9.5mm kit for the front to see if it's possible to change over the seals off it. Is this going to be a good idea? He had heard the rumour of AJP's demise & has decided to see what he can get off Beta for the future The Ossa importer also brings in S3 to NZ & said that S3 may be looking at making kits to keep all the bikes running AJP gear going. Hope this comes to fruition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 If the seal fits, it fits. Problem may be getting the boot, as they get torn and let crap in . First I heard the parts off the new ones would interchange, then I heard they were going to produce AJP replacment parts, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 On edit, I may have you a proper kit if you need it. Let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony27 Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Thanks for the offer Cope, had hoped it the front kit to strip would have arrived at work yesterday but it didn't & today is our version of veterans/rememberance day so hopefully I'll get it tomorrow Will try stripping the seals off it when it arrives to see if it's possible, can't see me sorting it saturday before I leave for 2 days of rider coaching with my VMX bikes Once I know whether changing seals works I'll get back to you about your kit Thanks again for the offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony27 Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Kit turned up today, quite surprised that beta supply the rubber parts without the piston etc. Quite happy about that though. Quick measure at work has me concerned that may be the wrong size as the seal etc are closer to 11 than 9.5mm but until I've stripped the cylinder I won't know for certain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splatshop Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 For anyone that is trying to find these AJP/150.00.396C seal kits, we have just had a delivery today from Sherco. They are branded up with J.Juan and AJP, so it looks like stuff is finally arriving. As expected they have gone up in price, you can find them here though: http://www.splatshop.co.uk/sherco-rear-brake-master-cylinder-seal-kit.html Tony, we also found that the Beta ones fit, but then the UK importer soon ran out of stock, I assume they are out of stock at the factory as we had them on backorder for a few weeks now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony27 Posted May 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 I ended up ordering the kit & getting it sent international signed for, normally takes 3 days to arrive which is quicker than I'd get it from here in NZ but even though it's been in the country since at least yesterday it wasn't delivered today Looks like I'm going VMXing tomorrow instead of riding the trial I set today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Pity, well if I understand all this, the problem with tony27's thing may be trying to use the front kit on the rear? I have heard the Beta rear kit doo indeed work, yet I have not tried it(add expensive). Hopefully they will get this sorted with the parts, soon! Should emergency arrize, PM me, as I still have one for emergency dispatch only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony27 Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 The beta kit I was sent was for the rear, seems 11mm may be more common for betas The kit I ordered off splatshop is the correct 9.5mm type, has been in the country 4 days now & still not delivered to me, normally things take 3 days in total to arrive. Always tomorrow I guess No more local trials for another 4 weeks so I now have lots of time to sort it. At least I managed to get some riding in on the CZ & YZ465 at Levi Sherwood's place yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Last thing I sent to Au, think customs sat on it for a week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony27 Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Finally came home to a card saying my mail was at the mail centre needing a signature, picked it up on the way to work. Woman there was really surprised it hadn't been delivered Saturday as it arrived in the country Friday Fitted it after work, ended up having to disconnect the rear brakeline so I could dig out the remains of the circlip which had rusted away to the point of not stopping the piston from coming out. Had a quick try at bleeding the brake but haven't gotten it working yet, will have a better go either in the weekend or next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) Finally came home to a card saying my mail was at the mail centre needing a signature, picked it up on the way to work. Woman there was really surprised it hadn't been delivered Saturday as it arrived in the country Friday Fitted it after work, ended up having to disconnect the rear brakeline so I could dig out the remains of the circlip which had rusted away to the point of not stopping the piston from coming out. Had a quick try at bleeding the brake but haven't gotten it working yet, will have a better go either in the weekend or next week Hopefully you have not induced a lot of air into the rear line going to the caliper. I would crack the fitting there again to let air out of the piston and get things flowing(pumping). Then close it off and see whot you got. Hopefully you will not need to back bleed it to get air out the rear line. Note again that corrosion in there is usually due to a torn boot. If you pack the inside of the boot with silecone grease it offers much higher resistance to water and crud entry in the case of a tear. Edited May 25, 2012 by copemech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony27 Posted June 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Having no luck bleeding the brake, there doesn't seem to be any air in the system. If I put a clear line over the nipple & open it up no fluid flows out unless I push down on the lever, there is no air in the fluid when I do this I pushed the pistons back in the caliper at the start to push any air in line line back up to the reservoir but now they don't move at all when pushing down on the cylinder. I'm pretty sure the pistons aren't tipped over in the bores as they seem to be level with the seals. Could the pistons be sitting too far back not allowing the fluid to get behind them & if so what is the best way to get them moving outwards again? Any other suggestions as to what to try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Having no luck bleeding the brake, there doesn't seem to be any air in the system. If I put a clear line over the nipple & open it up no fluid flows out unless I push down on the lever, there is no air in the fluid when I do this I pushed the pistons back in the caliper at the start to push any air in line line back up to the reservoir but now they don't move at all when pushing down on the cylinder. I'm pretty sure the pistons aren't tipped over in the bores as they seem to be level with the seals. Could the pistons be sitting too far back not allowing the fluid to get behind them & if so what is the best way to get them moving outwards again? Any other suggestions as to what to try So you did try cracking the line on top of the MC? to get some fluid flowing? Likely air cought in the top of the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony27 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Have tried opening the the line on top of the master cylinder, major pain to do as it involves removing the top mounting screw to get enough clearance to fit a 14mm spanner. Had fluid come out when I pushed down on the lever but none otherwise, may have been a little bit of air in it but not much if there was. Closed the line back up while slowly pushing down on the lever same as if I would if it was a bleed nipple that was open Still no movement from the pistons afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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