for artie Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) translated from news site http://www.ara.cat/e..._713928690.html Gas and Gas Ossa allied to the great group of Catalan mountain bike Manufacturers have already unified purchases from suppliers, to develop a new medium that versionarà motorcycle enduro for both brands in 2013 ELENA FREIXA Barcelona | Updated on 06/06/2012 10:22 Catalan manufacturers of motorcycles mountain Ossa and Gas Gas have launched a partnership to become a large group of motorcycle trial 'made in Catalonia. The two companies will collaborate on developing models, extending the range of segments and take advantage of the Ossa Gas Gas distribution network, which has a higher dimension. The preliminary agreement, which has advanced on Wednesday the newspaper 'Expansion', is to go closer ties in the coming years and, in the medium term could end with the merger of both companies Girona. Currently, manufacturers do not speak a total integration, but the collaboration to be more competitive abroad. The operation will multiply the productive capacity and to foster international growth, according to the ARA director of Ossa, John Gurt. He explained that in recent months has been set up joint purchasing of components between the two manufacturers. Ossa, in fact, had planned to build a new plant in Girona the coming years, but now you can make to the facilities of Gas Gas, who have the capacity to manufacture 30,000 units and now makes about 9,000 a year . The first tangible result of this alliance will be a new motorcycle endurance that will be released in 2013. The jointly develop the next few months both manufacturers and end up taking place, with modifications, for the two brands in the Gas Gas factory in Salt. In Figueres, home of Ossa, it will mount the other two models of the brand, although Gurt said that if agreement could end up being advanced as a center of engineering and R & D. The alliance between the two Catalan companies has come through conversations that favored when the Government released the latest line of credit to industry and a plan to ensure the future of the industry at a time when major international manufacturers ( Yamaha, Honda and Derby) have left or are on the way to stop producing motorcycles in Catalonia. "If we want to grow and be competitive and strong, the union can give us many opportunities," said the director of the NOW Ossa. In fact, the mark of Figueres, will benefit from the Gas Gas distribution network and can expand production capacity. "If before 2000 could accept orders, we can now produce 5,000 or 6000," he calculated. In 2011, manufactured 9000 Gas Gas trial bikes and enduro and the turnover was 40 million. The company is owned by Vector Capital, a venture capital company Caixa Penedès. Ossa was revived in the hands of three partners and shareholders in Figueres in 2008 and last year produced some 1,300 units of its two models of trial and Alpine. The turnover exceeds five million annually. Edited June 7, 2012 by for artie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for artie Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) another news story from http://www.expansion...1338922028.html Gas and Gas Ossa inician its merger to create the Catalan giant's trial First Integration between manufacturers Catalan motorcycle. Gas Gas Factory and Ossa alcanzado have a preliminary agreement to create fusionarse and world leader of trial. Nor conocedoras explicaron yesterday that negotiations for the AMBA companies have agreed that after its Integration Ossa take you months looking for a new investor in the Company's financial muscle Diers. The first step in the procedure Integration tuvo place the past March, when Gas Gas, Rieju and Ossa sealed a Partnership build a new model of motor scooters and motorcycles compatible with trial and enduro (see Catalonia EXPANSIÓN the past 15 March) . Now, you are two of the three companies have decided to take a few steps more and to become a group with a capacity of manufacturing 11,000 motorcycles a year and affords Sales conjuntas that affords them Roza 50 million. The sources consultadas explicaron that the agreement was in the line "the sinergias ya iniciadas to build a new engine and inside a Project of Puesta value in the sector that is siendo Catalan motorcycle driven by the Directorate General of Industry Government ". "In those of later months, they have a series of producido deslocalizaciones dejado have the bone of the two Catalan WHEELED VEHICLES very battered, and resucitarlo We want them protagonistas Manufacturers Catalan They must be them," the añadieron mismas Springs. Redeem stock For now, have not cemented the details of the integrations, that fear will pass them current probablemente accionistas Ossa tomen of minority stakes in a Gas Gas. 73% of the latter company today is in hands of Vector Capital, the Society of capital RISK Caixa Penedès. Gas Gas bill for 39.5 million euros in its latest fiscal PERFORMANCE, culminating in July 2011. Achievement of an operational benefit of 1.1 million euros. Gas Gas controls 40% of the global market trial bikes, with an unas Production of the 5000 units last year. It also affords manufactures 4000 motorcycle endurance. For its part, Ossa boasts a staff of 40 employees and manufactures the 1250 units last year, with magnificent Sales of five million euros. Months ago that the new investor looking for a company that supplies liquidity to negotiate, after that of its main partner, the employer Cuxart George, Viera is forced to quit the company behind the insolvency of Info-Cobra, a firm specializing in attending auctions the judicial administrator was unique and presented to creditors in Girona contest with a passive to more than 30 million euros. The principal accionistas of Ossa, a historic brand trial of the years seventy recovered in 2008, are John Gurt, and John Alexander Plaza Rome. It is also outlined by the Project resultante industrial company of the merger. Gas Gas count on the productive capacity Necessary to assume the erotic charge of Ossa in its facilities in Salt (Girona), but also could buscarse a new location. Months ago that the Government seeks a buyer for the Derby plant in Martorell (Vallès Oriental), although there ya an APPLICANT: Swiss holding the hump Jacaré. "There is no official Conversations on this line, all the options are open", the señalaron mismas Springs. Edited June 7, 2012 by for artie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Firstly, it's still all just rumour and speculation and will remain that way until a statement is made by one or both of the factories. Remember the Spanish do get very excited about "stories". If one Spanish Trials site posted that Toni Bou was actually a transexual alien from the planet Xarg, it would be on all of them within half an hour... Aside from that, it appears to be a bit of a non-story. It's talk of collaboration, not immediate merger or acquisition. That's no big deal. In the software industry we collaborate and undertake joint engineering ventures with some of our biggest competitors all the time. I'm sure it happens in many industries and if it's beneficial to both parties then why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_stuart Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 sounds soo good im sure bike will be amazing and gas gas get ossas bold innovative designs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andat Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 So reading what i can of that it appears to be more than just a joint engine development. Anyone out there able to understand all the statement? Yep...apparently Gas Gas are going to show Ossa how to build an indestructable gear box and rear wheel hubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p@ul250 Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yep...the one from the 2002 pro I had three in one year and two clutches. ALL new bikes have teething problems in the first years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosey Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 (edited) Sherco, Ossa and GG all seem to be made from the same bits to me, just with bits stuck in different places (or directions), so they appear to be different. Its why the erm... 'quality' on them all is more or less the same. Best thing to do is let others buy the bikes for the first year or two .... Well not for everybody to think that or they won't sell any!...We need some 'enthusiasts/certifiable types' to take the plunge. I'd say it's not just new bikes that have teething problems... you see it in cars etc. The best models are usually the last ones, as all the problems are as ironed out and sorted as they will ever be. ....... Buuuuut you just might clean a few more sections on the 2013 model Ossgasco Edited June 7, 2012 by Rosey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micm Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 From the Ossa site...'Gas Gas, Rieju y Ossa se alían para fabricar motores.' So there is a third partner Rieju Motors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydo Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 They could call it a Gossa or a Gassa Gassa! . Nah ! ITS GOT TO BE ......... OssAgaS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Firstly, it's still all just rumour and speculation and will remain that way until a statement is made by one or both of the factories. Remember the Spanish do get very excited about "stories". If one Spanish Trials site posted that Toni Bou was actually a transexual alien from the planet Xarg, it would be on all of them within half an hour... Aside from that, it appears to be a bit of a non-story. It's talk of collaboration, not immediate merger or acquisition. That's no big deal. In the software industry we collaborate and undertake joint engineering ventures with some of our biggest competitors all the time. I'm sure it happens in many industries and if it's beneficial to both parties then why not? having watched recent videos it makes more sense to me that Toni Bou is a transexual alien from the planet Xarg than the other theory which is that he is genetically related in some way to any of us........ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishy Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 "Gas and Gas Ossa inician its merger to create the Catalan giant's trial" I thought 99.9% of the worlds population were oblivious to what a trials bike is, but Spain leading the world in the financial market it makes sense the manufacturers have a whip round and throw in a few parts each. My guess would be job's f****d and there are more builders of bikes than riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borus Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 I think the statement " the aim is to share resources and create synergies between the two companies" captures what might take place in the future. The factories are 10 min from each other. Why not find efficiencies and cost saving where possible and that's just good business. Both would not give up their independence and trade mark. Lets start with the fact that Ossa needs production space for the Enduro and GG has it. That is one honkin building GG has and I'm sure they want to utilize it to it's capacity. jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) Spain is in very deep financial trouble despite yeasterdays bond issue which raised 2 odd billion this has simply created more debt. its unclear where the money is coming from at ossa petromiralies pulled out sharpish, the debt from start up must be horrendous so the need for" production space" may be true, but that is surely based on more finance being available? As ishy says too many bikes not enough punters, just dont see them all lasting for long. Edited June 8, 2012 by Nigel Dabster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Agree with Dabster & Ishy - I think the need is greater than the desire financially & as they say there are more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Gas Gas get access to Fuel Injection technology. They could spend a shed load getting it right themselves but why not use what's already out there. Gassser have doing fi for a lot longer than Ossa Edited June 26, 2012 by iconic558 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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