twinshocked Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Does anyone know how many were built ? Were they all 175 cc ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducman Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I will find out.No they were 200cc.The basic engine was the Sachs 175 six speed GS(ISDT)engine outbored to 200ccm with a hevier Flywheel and some more weight on the clutch side.When you orderd the bike you had the option with a Bing or Mikuni Carb.I will find ount how much Invaders where made in the next day's. Cheers:Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) We had two in our club. Our first lady rider(that could ride) her number plate had a boy named Sue. If you look real hard it can be found in the book observed trials just for fun by Carl Shipman. Edited June 23, 2012 by lineaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinshocked Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 I will find out.No they were 200cc.The basic engine was the Sachs 175 six speed GS(ISDT)engine outbored to 200ccm with a hevier Flywheel and some more weight on the clutch side.When you orderd the bike you had the option with a Bing or Mikuni Carb.I will find ount how much Invaders where made in the next day's. Cheers:Mike Thanks Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 So Did you dig something interesting out of the dark hinterlands of Dickson ... ??? Or just looking for something unique ? Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinshocked Posted August 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I will find out.No they were 200cc.The basic engine was the Sachs 175 six speed GS(ISDT)engine outbored to 200ccm with a hevier Flywheel and some more weight on the clutch side.When you orderd the bike you had the option with a Bing or Mikuni Carb.I will find ount how much Invaders where made in the next day's. Cheers:Mike Hi Mike, any chance you've found out how many were made? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custgp Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Saracen Invader Trials around 1973, with the 5 speed Mickmar 250cc engine, not sure how many made? Photo etc at http://www.custgp.com/trialsbiketwo.html Cheers Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westyfield7 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I have a '74 invader with the 200cc Sachs engine fitted. It seems to have a lot more useable bottom end than the 125 I also have, almost "Fantic 200 like" power. Obviously the suspension is comparatively dated but it would be interesting to ride it in a twin-shock or classic trial on the clubman route. Does anyone know which piston was used and where a + size might be sourced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducman Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Basic engine of the 200 is the sachs 6 speed 175ccm gs(180ccm Army engine Hercules)The modified engine for the Saracen got a brass ring on the flywheel and a big weiht on the clutch side.You can run them with very low revs,it got very good bottem end power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskycr500 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 hi my brother and I bought 2 Saracens from john burdon m/cs in 1972 both were sachs 125 alloy barrel engines local rider brian Johnson rode one for burdon that was heavily modified, because as standard they were useless we saw jon bliss and david brand competeing in the ssdt that year my brother also competed I believe brand owned the factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleanorbust Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 himy brother and I bought 2 Saracens from john burdon m/cs in 1972both were sachs 125 alloy barrel engineslocal rider brian Johnson rode one for burdon that was heavily modified, because as standard they were uselesswe saw jon bliss and david brand competeing in the ssdt that yearmy brother also competedJack Galloway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hi, The complete Saracen story, with images, is told in ORRe-4. The works team in the 1970 SSDT did include Jack Galloway, Enjoy, Deryk Wylde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawil Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 hi deryk you may not know that my first trials bike was a 125 saracen bored to 150cc and came s/hand the previous owner was david banks the son of that grand old east london dealer and greeves rider monty, it had scottish paint marking on it and i think that david rode it in the trial , it later became one of my outfits , fitted with a slightly detuned triumph daytona motor was asking a bit much of the frame but bill wilkinson welded it back together and enabled me to finish the allan jeffries that year,i became a sort of honary yorkshireman as to the shock of the locals bill did the job for nought, will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) hi my brother and I bought 2 Saracens from john burdon m/cs in 1972 both were sachs 125 alloy barrel engines local rider brian Johnson rode one for burdon that was heavily modified, because as standard they were useless we saw jon bliss and david brand competeing in the ssdt that year my brother also competed I believe brand owned the factory Just one point - Brand didn't own the factory, he rented the space in what had been part of the printing empire, Odhams, building. I know 'cos I was a director of the company that rented the top floor where we assembled the walkie-talkies used by the emergency services like the Coastguards and the Air/sea rescue squadrons of the Air Force, as well as the units used underground in the mines by their rescue bods. Cheers Edited November 8, 2014 by laird387 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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