uhoh7 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) I've had the bike since new. Cylinder has been recoated and matched to current piston and now has a season on it. I know the normal noises and my buddy has an 04 pro for comparison---. Metallic clicking from cylinder area--sounds like a diesel. Very distinct--sharper than the "clutch noise", varies perfectly with rpm. You don't hear it reving up, but you do on decel. But it may be drowned out reving. Took off head to deal with o-ring and inspected. Cylinder seems perfect--esp compared to what it was like when I had it re-done (still ran then). Jetting has never changed since new---using Dale hi-alt del orto jets. Seems to run great. But I'd hate to have it come apart here: How can I test my bearings? all advice apreciated Was rumaging around looking for my wossner piston box to see what size I had--and came accross my stock head. I think I will pull off the raga head and see if noise changes Edited July 3, 2012 by uhoh7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerorev3rev4 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 it does sound like piston slap what you are describing , little ends rarely give trouble just get blamed for piston slap all the time , it could be the big end (conrod ) ,you would need to remove cylinder and pull up and down on the rod keeping it pushed to one side to prevent rocking ,there should be no play here ,and get piston cyl measured while off , but like you say try head first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Hi Uhoh7, Sorry I've got no remedy for you. I had the same sort of problem on my 280 2001,changed rings,little end etc but it was a no go and I had to sell it like that. Love that FJ :wub: you've got,a serious bit of kit, when I go on holiday I'm all over the nearest FJ owner as if they were my new best friend ....Toyota should find a diesel lump to fit and flog them over here. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) If it is a constant tick related to engine speed perhaps the primary gear on the clutch has picked up some debris. What happens is a piece off the half moon kickstarter gear travels to the idler gear then becomes inbedded into the primary teeth. It is an annoying sound once you realize it is there. It can be very hard to find, sometimes a magnify glass is needed and go tooth to tooth. I have seen this three times before, twice on the pro motor. Edited July 3, 2012 by lineaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laser1 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 +1 lineaway. Chips on the backside of the Idler gear can also the cause noise you describe. Note - the backside chips are hard to see w/o taking it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jse Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 +1 lineaway. Chips on the backside of the Idler gear can also the cause noise you describe. Note - the backside chips are hard to see w/o taking it off. Thats what I've found too. I've been quite surprized at how small a chip off the tooth face will produce the clicking sound described. My guess is that replacing th idler gear will solve the problem. I also think that slamming the kickstart will surface scrub the tooth face and narrows them over time. This will result in tooth clatter due to the speed-up, slow-down of the clutch assembly during normal, non-load operation (common to straight-cut gears). Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) If it is a constant tick related to engine speed perhaps the primary gear on the clutch has picked up some debris. What happens is a piece off the half moon kickstarter gear travels to the idler gear then becomes inbedded into the primary teeth. It is an annoying sound once you realize it is there. It can be very hard to find, sometimes a magnify glass is needed and go tooth to tooth. I have seen this three times before, twice on the pro motor. TY so much for suggestion--I better pull off side cover and check that too. It does seem to come from cylinder area, but that's close. My gear oil has been clean w/ no big things on the magnet. The sound used to come and go a bit--most pronounced cold, but now seems to hang all the time. Now I must remember to hold in the top hat so I don't have to rebleed. I better chk my brake fluids too, hehe. ON the way down from here a few weeks ago I had my first front brake fade---back of course can do it pretty easy getting hot, but this was the first time my front ever failed. TY much for replies. Edited July 3, 2012 by uhoh7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 We have had a few of the 2007 and 2008 bikes that needed a new crank bearing that made similar sounds from the front (cylinder) of the engine. The chipped idler gear problem just starts making noise, it does not start softly and get worse over time as you have described. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 TY for all replies Just to update. After psiton inspection for cracks, I rode another 10-20 hours with loud tick, Just now I finally changed the piston. Silence. yaahooo!! Its peak riding seaon now and we have been out a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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