nigel dabster Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Care to translate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramit Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 i hope you told ignacio it was all his familys fault. they couldnt shed jobs when they needed to whether they hired too many or not. This is not a reason why JTG dont hire more, they dont hire because they dont sell enough. I was going to say but Nigel beat me to it. James, just take Nigel with you next time and he can straighten the story out (the way he sees it) with Ignacio............or on second thought don't, do you know how boring TC would be without Nigel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) I'd be willing to bet JTG's got a waiting list for bikes ... Sometimes it's quality , not quantity , that make all the difference ... Edited October 27, 2012 by axulsuv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I was going to say but Nigel beat me to it. James, just take Nigel with you next time and he can straighten the story out (the way he sees it) with Ignacio............or on second thought don't, do you know how boring TC would be without Nigel? not too sure if you are agreeing or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasgas249uk Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I was going to say but Nigel beat me to it. James, just take Nigel with you next time and he can straighten the story out (the way he sees it) with Ignacio............or on second thought don't, do you know how boring TC would be without Nigel? Kramit - you are right - Is Dabs old enough to be classed as eccentric , as he's loveable enough I'd be willing to bet JTG's got a waiting list for bikes ... Sometimes it's quality , not quantity , that make all the difference ... Your right - this press release was sent out by the factory last night following the natural rumors that would follow Pol going to Sherco . It confirms what youve said above " He says the brand plans, if Pol Tarrés and some new Marc Arañó, Josep Rigau, Joan Claudi Obrador and Freixas Following the signing of Pol Tarrés by Sherco have arisen all kinds of rumors and gossip about Jotagas , which in many cases are furto of ignorance, which Marc Arañó, director of sales and marketing of Jotagas, wanted to tell us the future plans of the brand as well as the case of Pol Tarrés and some new features like the development of a bike tour. Arañó Marc tells us: "Jotagas been on the market as a company (since that was incorporated) 2 ½ years and only 9 since leaving the first moto of the assembly line. During this period, we have manufactured and used 500 units, equivalent to more less 10% market share, could have been 1000, we had orders, but the development of the factory, its chain and suppliers need time to consolidate and we are giving. This three people have been key, Felix Casas (production), and Paco Roldán Claudi Obrador, who was together with Jordi and Jotagas since the beginning of the bike's father, has known bad not being able to supply customers and importers all the quantities ordered and what I do is hand out've tried them all and equally among all the countries with which we work. The 2013 in its three current displacements, is a motorcycle that already offers excellent performance and we do not keep up with the demands received from countries like Japan, UK, Austria and Germany, France, etc ... On a sporting level, we could be present with equipment and importers in almost every country where trial activity has a significant weight, and considering that the bike was just entering the market very positively surprised me the results, starting precisely by Pol, and the title of champions in France Sandrine Juffet and support Berlatier Philipe, several podiums in England with Ross Danby and Steve Saunders, and success in countries like Switzerland, Austria and Belgium and several classic titles with Pascuet Jordi and David Millan, more than enough to be proud and to be calm and confident about the upcoming season. On this last issue, we still have time to see what approach we take, we will undoubtedly maintain current sports structures in each country and are assessing whether or not bet something stronger stepping forward or otherwise, we more time on the latter, I repeat, we are evaluating, but we have not spoken to anyone, whatever they say the rumors. Our priority as a company is to consolidate the production and maintain sports facilities covering a minimum in each of the countries we work with. On the subject of Pol; Sherco is a trademark friend, we have an excellent relationship with most of the people who integrate and respect the decision of Pol, it is logical that this decision has raised rumors and chatter, however, we must say and say from Jotagas, that have little to do with reality. Jordi Jordi Pol Pol is, the role of George in Jotagas is develop the bike and support the entire structure, the Pol train to compete and if possible win, the biggest problem has been that we have asked Jotagas Pol not only train, but will also work with the tweaking and evolution of the bike, no doubt, responsibility for which is amply prepared while acknowledging that it has taken time for his main task, training and racing. The economic issue ... little to say, there are people who years ago took for dead to other factories (our partners) and end reality always will gain the fiction (in this case we could substitute the word fiction by hearsay, ignorance, lack of information, and in some cases, and pardon the expression "bad blood" . Future plans for the brand, enterprise level, we plan to achieve production of 2,000 units of trial watching the current three displacements (300, 280 and 250 cc) and the present 125 by December 2012 and they are working Claudi and Paco. Furthermore, and with respect enduro model, still working on its development, we have three prototypes that work perfectly and will also be the company in December when the final result of this project, I am told, although we can not yet set the date of commencement of production. We are also developing a model that will be born and will catch excursion based on the platform of our trial bike. With this product portfolio, we plan to reach 4000 units / year in 2015 and, to pull ahead with this business plan we have all of the current team and mainly with Jordi Tarrés. " not too sure if you are agreeing or not? Hope you all had a good trial today. Joe Baker is Jotagas mounted i hear. Was he riding the Normandale today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 so forgetting about the pros and cons of the bultaco business plan for a moment.... Jotagas officially are not speaking to anyone as a replacement for Pol Tarres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie_lejeune Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Jordi Tarres will be hoking the alpinestars out of the basement and an old one piece suit to give them a pull out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilh Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 so has anybody heard any rumours why the old man didnt give his boy a job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 yes he kept referring to Jordi as oi shorthouse.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilh Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 so what you're saying is, he's racist against short people? shortist, if you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasgas249uk Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 so has anybody heard any rumours why the old man didnt give his boy a job? Its all about the money. It always is. JTG are selling all they can make. Its a superb bike.Why do they need to spend 100k euro pa (guess) on the junior Wc? The co profile is big enough to sell em all. The Wc is one expensive ego trip when the company isn't going to immediately benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) If the demand is as great as you say surely a short burst of production to get more money in would be the answer, economies of scale make 200 is cheaper than 2 x 100, surely? There has never been a "superb" trials bike in the second year of production. To win the JWTC (thought pol was set for top route) has got to cost alot less than 100k. If he was to get some good results in the wtc then it would make people believe in a new product, they havnt, we dont? Edited October 31, 2012 by nigel dabster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasgas249uk Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Thanks for telling us all how you really feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Not so much how I feel more a reality check? Maybe there is a golden goose in Spain but the maths for most factories dont add up, especially so Jtg and ossa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breagh Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) You really shouldn't knock any makers. Our track record in Trials machine manufacture of late is frankly dire. I have to admire these continental types that knock a half decent trials bike together in the back room. Wouldn't like to think what we would be riding if we had to come up with the goods ourselves. Edited November 1, 2012 by breagh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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