Easiest Twin Shock To Ride?

[jon v8]

I dont think its worth putting too much emphasis on the weight of the bike.Picking the trials you ride is more important,doing difficult or wet trials where grip is a problem is only going to tire you.Having a day off to observe would be a sensible choice then...

On the odd occassions that I have ridden modern pogo sticks I've found them hard work in terms of bu--ering off as soon as you think about the throttle,pulling your arms out of the sockets.Then they squeeze you back together with brakes that make your eyeballs drop out.What I'm saying is they are difficult to dribble along on,with the clutch out in the "classic" style.As a contrast my old TY250 twinshock just wobbles along with a soft old pudding of an engine - but will find grip where there is none and steers well enough to go around obstacles with the clutch fully out.(Has cleaned many climbs where mono's have failed)

Keeping your feet up and not struggling is key to not tiring yourself out,start jumping around and yanking on the bars or footing and you will soon be knackered.

[chuckindenver]

lighten the KT...remove the headlight, tail light, oil enjection, key switch, light switch, and the road legal wire harness, thats about 40 pounds of crap you wont need in a trials section,

i have no trick parts other then moving the bars up, Koni rear shocks, and custom made down and back pegs,

light engine mods, KX clutch cover, will clean up the look, that is on my list, and maybe change out the steering head to a KX.

modern trials tires are a bit lighter as well,

my bike with fuel weighed in just under 170LBS,

we have an event here, thats both modern and twin shock,, ride 30 sections on your twin shocker in the morning, eat a quick lunch, then 30 on your modern bike, no poggo sticking is needed if you know how to ride the basics, keep it smooth, and ride the bike, relax,

usually this is a 3 day event, and ends up 150 sections in 3 days, we call it the iron man...usually less the 5 riders finish this class.

i can and do ride both, and have pushed our vintage club to add a single shock air cooled class, its sparked a new interest in the club, i have a few riders that would have never thought about joining the {old guys} that have TY,s and Cotas being prepped for this years sections...ITSA Rockymountain riders on the expert line, should hit the gym this winter, and ride when you can, ill be trials mastering a couple of the events, and will take that expert line up a couple notches.

[ham2]

Cheers, 30 twin/30 mono sounds like you're having a great time there.

Wayne

[woody]

170lbs for a KT.... I doubt the works bikes were that light, have you checked your scales... The 2012 spec lightweight Cubs and James would struggle to achieve that

A stock KT is about 215lbs and most of that is the frame which is way too heavy and over-engineered. The motor is actually quite light, especially compared to the TY250 motor which is a huge lump. Even Sammy Miller's Bultacos with the lightweight frames and all his other weight saving tricks were still around 190lbs.

As regards the original question, Trials is physical and if you get fatigued doing light physical activity, you are definitely going to get fatigued just riding a bike over rough ground, regardless of the bike. Riding a smaller lighter bike will minimise that, hence your question no doubt, so a TY175 or Fantic 200 would be my choice as both are comparitively light and won't have too much power that they pull you around, which will also tire you out. Both will have more than adequate power for what you need. If you can afford it, a modernised Bantam is about as light as you can get

If you choose modern, avoid 250 or bigger as they will pull you around. A 200 Beta is an excellent bike, as is a 4-stroke 125/175/200 Scorpa

Another considersation is not just the riding of the bike, it's manhandling it when things go wrong, holding onto it and picking it up again, all of which will tire you quickly if you are already tired from riding. All of the above are easy to start, although a bike that starts in gear is always less hassle.

If budget stretches, I know someone who has done a couple of electric start TLR200 Hondas using the ching-chang engines (or whatever they're called) It doesn't get any easier than that...

[earthmover]

I have recently sold my "modern" bike, a 2004 Beta 250 Rev3 in favour of a 2nd Whitehawk framed TY 175. We are lucky enough to have two Classic trials clubs locally, so have two events a month generally, and still manage the odd modern trial. I found the TY's a lot easier to ride, and with a little care and attention, can even manage half decent brakes too!

Mark