andy m Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 bobb you hit the nail on the head, "don't want to build a bike for one trial". In a nutshell, build what is allowed in your area. Build with brakes that work at sensible money. It seems many build bikes with Scotland as their yard stick and they never go north , they waste a lot of time and money whilst the wise build bikes in their sheds that are usable and don't break the bank. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl ekblom Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Andy, I think this nice hub is a pre 65 design http://www.ebay.de/i...=item3f21657ae4 This Husqvarna hub came in the late sixties http://www.ebay.com/...58e256a&vxp=mtr Around 1980 it changed to this http://www.ebay.com/...1671539&vxp=mtr Who would tell wich one is of pre 65 design? A good Husqvarna wheel will last forever and its easy to get spares. I even talked to a guy who had NOS (expensive!) brake plates for sale. A lot of old Moto-X parts on e-bay will fit perfectly well on a classic trials bike. This cheap hub shuld be 100% legal anywhere http://www.ebay.co.u...=item20ba35e0ff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hi Guys. We keep going back to this Horrid trial in Scotland? That people keep thinking own the rules for Brit Bikes. Come on guys we have gotten to far down the pounds shillings and pence. Line now, to build a bike for one trial , that you may never get an entry for anyway. We have nearly put an end to building a cheap bike built mainly out of Britbike bits because, this one trial still dictates the rules for the rest of the year. Come on, build a bike that you can afford to build, and if you have, say TY wheels, use them, they work better anyway. We need new and more numbers, and trials to ride in for, guys who would just love to ride a Brit sounding bike, but can't afford one of the trick bikes built specifically just for one trial. It is now time to provide a new class for a new type of Classic trials bike, or we loose the lot. Mark my words. You may think I am crazy. But you do your homework. Regards Charlie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 On my Bantam I had the front drum machined and then some oversize shoes made up (Alan Whitton) the brake was fine until it went under water, now it has good and bad days even though it gets cleaned regularly. Because of this I'd rather have brakes that actually work which is why I will use the Fantic wheels on my next build. The back brake on the bantam is a widened hub with std shoes and is fine, just the front is crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Hi Guys. We keep going back to this Horrid trial in Scotland? That people keep thinking own the rules for Brit Bikes. Come on guys we have gotten to far down the pounds shillings and pence. Line now, to build a bike for one trial , that you may never get an entry for anyway. We have nearly put an end to building a cheap bike built mainly out of Britbike bits because, this one trial still dictates the rules for the rest of the year. Come on, build a bike that you can afford to build, and if you have, say TY wheels, use them, they work better anyway. We need new and more numbers, and trials to ride in for, guys who would just love to ride a Brit sounding bike, but can't afford one of the trick bikes built specifically just for one trial. It is now time to provide a new class for a new type of Classic trials bike, or we loose the lot. Mark my words. You may think I am crazy. But you do your homework. Regards Charlie. Charlie, I'm curious to know where you think the "line" is, it seems fantaha wheels/forks are ok, why not use that yamtic engine as well ? And it would be a shame to waste the frame !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Hi Guys. Hi B40, The Line is, when you have a dream, and then run out of money. You have a mate that has a pair of forks from a discarded bike in his shed, and the front wheel seems OK to, I think they may be out of a 1970s bike he says, but if that's what you need to get your bike going take them, they are no good for me and I was going to throw them out , or put them on the net? But that would cost me. So A gets his trials bike finished and can ride it,in a trial, if there is a class for a Brit Special bike. and B he has a mate for life, for getting him up and running, And C we now have another guy riding a trials bike on a Sunday morning. OK. Someone also probably gets a pair of C15 forks that are useless for trials but would fit in we'll for a Classic road bike rebuild? Regards Charlie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old trials fanatic Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 So where do you draw the line Charlie? Fantic engine in a Bantam frame with gas gas forks but Cub wheels and tank and alloy mudguards ? would that be ok? mostly British or would a Bantam engine in a fantic frame with TY forks and wheels be more preferable. Just asking mate because as Ross says there should be a line surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 This bloke has made a cracking job of this BSA on Charlies site, and it has brakes that work... http://www.bsaotter.com/herberts_austrian_built_bsa_otter..html This is another... http://www.bsaotter.com/dave_woods_mk3_faber_otter_bsa_build.html All good stuff... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Bob, This is my Cub: It has Montesa forks and an unknown front wheel (Bultaco maybe). The oil tank and filler plugs are made from bits of high speed train, and the rest collected when and where bits became available at the right price. It isn't 100% original but I compete at club level in modern and pre 65 events. I don't expect to win trophies and have never had anything but nice comments from fellow competitors about my bike (better than a trophy any day). Build your bike how you want it and then ride it. You can always change bits later. My goal was to keep within the spirit of the events I enter without breaking the bank. Bruce. Edited February 1, 2013 by brucey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 very nice cub !!! the bsa's are nice to i have a b40 to that is quite good but not nice to look at when the cub is ready i'm going to tidy the b40 i like the 2nd bsa from the otter site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 bobb you hit the nail on the head, "don't want to build a bike for one trial". In a nutshell, build what is allowed in your area. Build with brakes that work at sensible money. It seems many build bikes with Scotland as their yard stick and they never go north , they waste a lot of time and money whilst the wise build bikes in their sheds that are usable and don't break the bank. Fair point, but dont build a bike that will will exclude you from a fantastic event. Its not oversubscribed ever year for no reason. (I'm on the reserve list, so fingers crossed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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