0007 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 This may sound weird but, I would spend hours and hours on my wheel so I didnt need a tube, I would even do it twice if I had to There's just some kind of sin in having a tube in the tire, a dirty secret Be as weird as having a seat....... I would never stop thinking about it.......but that's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migwa13 Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 haha i see what your sayin but sat lookin at a tube on the shelf while im messing with rim bands instead of actually ridin would be a sin to me .. mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guys Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 If there is no hole in the rim, to fasten the "tyre clamp" so the tyre doesn't rotate on the rim, how do you keep the valve from tearing of the tube? It didn't work in my case anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabie Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 tubeless is better, but untill you stop the air leaks it's a pain in ..... anyway i can't talk as many moon ago we bodged my bike and put a tube in the rear anyway (drilled a hole for the rim lock) .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzeneye Posted February 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Cured it! Took tyre off rim, cleaned it all up to death...... In the absence of sikaflex I used some high temp flue sealant I had over from a job..... I made a little spreader tool from plastic milk bottle, basically a kind if t shape that sat on the rims where the bead sits but allowed a small section to drop into the space where the rim band sits..... I kept it at a death of around 4mm above the rim band, daubed in the red silicone and them smoothed it off to an even level right the way round the wheel. Took a few passes to get it smooth and even in a best attempt to not affect the wheel balance..... Left it to cure and refitted the tyre. Used a yo eye header to refit the tyre, and I've got to say they are worth every penny. It has held perfect pressure for 3-4 days now.... Hopefully it will hold up as a permanent cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop650 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I have never run tubeless tires (MX bikes use tubes) but this video seems to have some good advice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sAD6l0ORVg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 My new rimband just arrived.......... Now I get to put it on. Hope it goes smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Take it steady and as long as its sat neatly in the grooves its there, dont worry about bumps in the middle they get smoothed out when you pump it up. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 This is one job I will definitely take my time and try to do it right the first time............don't want to have to re do it or buy a new one. Damn things are expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Well, I put the new Rim strip in today. went much better than expected. Instead of soapy water I used basically the equivalent of Armor All. it is a silicone protectant for plastic, rubber, etc... My logic was it was made for that stuff and it is slippy when wet, it let the rim strip slide around a little bit like it should and because it is for protecting and shining rubber, etc. then it should not harm it in the long run. Tire has been refitted and currently holding 5 psi. NO extra sealants or goop. Just the rim, a new rim strip and some of that armor all stuff. Crossing my fingers it was done well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I usually leave say 40 psi overnight this seems to take up the slack and even out the rim tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblenorbed Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Cured it! Took tyre off rim, cleaned it all up to death...... In the absence of sikaflex I used some high temp flue sealant I had over from a job..... I made a little spreader tool from plastic milk bottle, basically a kind if t shape that sat on the rims where the bead sits but allowed a small section to drop into the space where the rim band sits..... I kept it at a death of around 4mm above the rim band, daubed in the red silicone and them smoothed it off to an even level right the way round the wheel. Took a few passes to get it smooth and even in a best attempt to not affect the wheel balance..... Left it to cure and refitted the tyre. Used a yo eye header to refit the tyre, and I've got to say they are worth every penny. It has held perfect pressure for 3-4 days now.... Hopefully it will hold up as a permanent cure. Silicone eats into you`re alloy rim and destroys it. Total nightmare to get off. Unless you sell the bike this method will cost you a small fortune in the long run. ( or the next owner ) Sorry to sound harsh but I speak from experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Silicone eats into you`re alloy rim and destroys it. Total nightmare to get off. Unless you sell the bike this method will cost you a small fortune in the long run. ( or the next owner ) Sorry to sound harsh but I speak from experience. it is not specifically the silicone that will eat the rim but rather the chemicals mixed with the silicone to cure it that will eat the rim??? but basically silicone sealent/caulk etc..=bad. (This was referenced in the above video) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guys Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 it is not specifically the silicone that will eat the rim but rather the chemicals mixed with the silicone to cure it that will eat the rim??? but basically silicone sealent/caulk etc..=bad. (This was referenced in the above video) Correct. This is what I found on the www: "silicone sealants release acetic acid (which smells a little like vinegar) as they cure" (They will cure faster but do not stick very well compared to Neutral cure types Neutral (meaning neutral alcoxy) silicone sealants release alcohol as they cure, and has almost no smell, but take about 3 times longer to set up than acetic curing sealants. The do have overall a higher "grip" than Acetic types) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guys Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Well, I put the new Rim strip in today. went much better than expected. Instead of soapy water I used basically the equivalent of Armor All. it is a silicone protectant for plastic, rubber, etc... My logic was it was made for that stuff and it is slippy when wet, it let the rim strip slide around a little bit like it should and because it is for protecting and shining rubber, etc. then it should not harm it in the long run. Tire has been refitted and currently holding 5 psi. NO extra sealants or goop. Just the rim, a new rim strip and some of that armor all stuff. Crossing my fingers it was done well enough. I would only use the soapy water to mount the rim strip. The guy in the film says the rim strip is made from a very sticky kind of rubber and amor all has the opposite effect. They make the rim strip from sticky rubber for a reason. To keep it well in it's place after the soapy water has evaporated I presume. But I could be wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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