brenin Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 on the subject of levers, I was wondering about the merit of an idea that is current in mtb riding......the current vogue is to move the m/c a long way inboard on the bars, so that the lever is pulled by 1 or at most 2 fingers. As its mounted so far in board, your outer 2 or 3 digits stay hold of the bar, and also dont get squashed by the lever. You are using your strongest finger on the very end of the lever, so have maximum mechanical advantage..... What do people think? Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guys Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I think most riders already use this positioning of the levers. I do anyway for at least the last 10 years. On my mountainbike also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabie Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 i'm weird and i do this but everyone else doesn't (AFAIK), both my dad and my sister have their vars and leavers set up normally ...... but as i say i'm just weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greychapel Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 been doing this for 40+ years,also reduces risk of breaking in a fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 That's what short leavers are for ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pindie Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 If you're that worried get cold forged levers as you can end them back and they don't snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greychapel Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 OK, reduce risk of bending and short levers reduce leverage...hence heavier action..simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 OK, reduce risk of bending and short levers reduce leverage...hence heavier action..simples Depends on the pivot point and if they are dog leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 OK, reduce risk of bending and short levers reduce leverage...hence heavier action..simples actually I believe the "short" 2 finger levers have more leverage than the "long" 4 finger levers. The area for fingers to be on the lever is shorter for the 2 finger levers but the distance from the master cylinder to the point where the index finger (1st) is actually longer than on the 4 finger levers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greychapel Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'm sorry if I caused confusion, just saying I use forefinger only on a long lever moved inward on the bar as far as possible so finger is alongside the ball end of lever to me that seems to give max leverage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'm sorry if I caused confusion, just saying I use forefinger only on a long lever moved inward on the bar as far as possible so finger is alongside the ball end of lever to me that seems to give max leverage. Also means your finger is at full stretch, making your finger work harder and tire faster. Which is why dog legged leavers were developed, best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I thought everyone who had a modern (non cable) clutch and brake trials bike rode like that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I started out in trials back in the late 70's and early 80's, everything was cable. I was too young (read that as did not pay attention) to discern the nuances of lever placement. Sections were a bit different then also, hardly ever touched the clutch and my TY175 would idle so low it fired once every 10 mins anyways. Got out of trials in my late teens and returned many years later on a TLR200 Reflex riding modern sections against those with hydraulic clutch, brakes. HOLY CRAP did my wrist and forearms hurt after every event. When I upgraded to a Fantic Section (95 I think) The difference was tremendous, everything had such a light pull and was just wonderful to ride. After a few years my abilities progressed and I noticed more subtle nuances in clutch and brake pull. So now I am a bit particular in my set up. and set up is different for everyone. SOOOO long drawn out useless story to say set up for what is comfortable for you and keeps you in control without being too sore at the end of your ride. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greychapel Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ha Ha I ride modern and twinshhock...but am blessed with long fingers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guys Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) Ha Ha I ride modern and twinshhock...but am blessed with long fingers! AHA! So you're the one that's been nicking all the stuff! Edited March 8, 2013 by guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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