eddie_lejeune Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 bottom line is, price of these bikes was never an issue, I know many people who bought them when they first came out and sold them promptly because they werent competitive- that was riding against beta rev 3's and the like, look how much the other 2 strokers have come on now in that time. It's like riding a beta zero against a ty yam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj65 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) bottom line is, price of these bikes was never an issue, I know many people who bought them when they first came out and sold them promptly because they werent competitive- that was riding against beta rev 3's and the like, look how much the other 2 strokers have come on now in that time. It's like riding a beta zero against a ty yam When they came out there wasn't a recession and they weren't Edited July 11, 2013 by jj65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 bottom line is, price of these bikes was never an issue, I know many people who bought them when they first came out and sold them promptly because they werent competitive- that was riding against beta rev 3's and the like, look how much the other 2 strokers have come on now in that time. It's like riding a beta zero against a ty yam I don't understand your comments on un-competitive. Riders on 4rts have and still are winning awards in a wide variety of events. A tweaked new model should only help carry this on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj65 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 I don't understand your comments on un-competitive. Riders on 4rts have and still are winning awards in a wide variety of events. A tweaked new model should only help carry this on. Many riders seem pre-conditioned to modern 2 strokes and there light weight and wouldn't ride a 4 stroke even if it was better. I've seen some youngsters do very well and win on 4rts, a couple of years ago they would never have considered one, but now they love them. If they had the money, I think a lot of young experts could win on a 4stroke and still have as much fun. Surely being good on a trials bike is all about confidence and technique. The new bike may just be what they're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laser1 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Does anyone know about the mechanicals behind the crankcase decompression? Im surprised nobody is talking about that feature and how it works. Im curious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj65 Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Does anyone know about the mechanicals behind the crankcase decompression? Im surprised nobody is talking about that feature and how it works. Im curious. That's one of the features of the new engine that I'm interested in. I don't know how it works, but I think the future engines have something that works similar. There is reduced internal friction, I assume that's part of, or the result of the crankcase decompression. Would it have something to do with the crankcase pressure valve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 I don't understand your comments on un-competitive. Riders on 4rts have and still are winning awards in a wide variety of events. A tweaked new model should only help carry this on. When was there last podium in the BTC? When was the last National win on one? Who has won a centre championship on one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 de-compressor to reduce engine braking (more like a 2 stroke?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj65 Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 de-compressor to reduce engine braking (more like a 2 stroke?) Like a lot of advance new 4 strokes, some use slipper clutches and I assume this will do a similar thing, most companies are trying to reduce internal engine friction to make them more effient and powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totty79 Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 I took crankcase decompression to mean gases pumped out to lower the pressure like the panigale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cota kid Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Not that i get out much to ride mine, but when i do i invariably get someone wanting to buy it. Could be seriously tempted for the repsol version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Photos & video from the press day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munch Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 you mean the cota RACE REPLICA! CK price reduction only for the std cota 260 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedracer Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 My understanding of the price reduction, is for the standard 260, 15 to 20% , which is why it has the cheaper components over the Replica Repsol. Could be wrong, but that sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie_lejeune Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 I don't understand your comments on un-competitive. Riders on 4rts have and still are winning awards in a wide variety of events. A tweaked new model should only help carry this on. read what dabster says above, these bikes are tanks period unless you buy bou or fujinami's. Good bike for the average easy route rider though I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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