dabber Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Golfers at any level seem to be able to stick to the rules, why not us lot? Good / bad decisions balance themselves out over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot 3 Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 (edited) "farming Sections" has been going on for years it's up to observers to police it and police it across the board. At this year's pre 65 scottish a very well known rider with a rapidly improving very good son, was watched by the crowd at Mam Brec filling in the gap below the big root that was catching everyone out. He knew he was last of the leaders on the route so the advantage was there. The observer ignored it even though he watched it happen. this rider is reknown for his farming antics and if he ever wrote a book he could call it no stone unturned !! It's called cheating in simple terms and probably professionalism in world terms. Call it what you like it's still cheating. Anyone who observes a trial has to enough iron will to make it fair for everyone, that means stopping the cheats...... dy Edited June 8, 2005 by Slapshot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 That wouldn't be Dave Thorpe would it? In his defence, and more generally, alot of people move flattern and in the deep south here tread in lines in cambers and the like which is sometimes of benefit to all the entry, and I've never seen Dave or anyone else for that matter go back and take the "helper" out. I'm not sure its clearly cheating, its more a question of degree which makes it right or wrong, and herein lies the problem, what is acceptable varies enourmously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadrajet Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 This is a great discussion, it's refreshing to see everyone chipping in on this. __________________________________________________________ Bikespace, Thanks for the specific rule number, apparently I didn't "SCOUR" it too well LOL. Craig, You're absolutely right, if this was being done in such a trivial place in our section, who knows how many other times it had been done in other sections. I was not personally given the printed sheet you mentioned, it may have been in the Section Captain's packet, but I did not see it. Dabber, The Golf analogy is one that I too had been thinking of since Duluth. I believe that there are a few factors in play here; the golf crowds are bigger and more rules savvy, also there are cameras on the pro golfers at all times. It's hard to escape scrutiny when you have so many people/press around that will actually make a stink about the pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabber Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Quad - I agree about the golf at the top level, but it also seems to work at club level too. A colleague has recently joined a golf club and as part of the process of joining the club he was interviewed to make sure he knew the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofasttim Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 You've got some rich friends dabber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringo Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Nice that the kid got away with his minder helping him maintain balance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikespace Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Even though I said above that I see nothing wrong with the individual minder being in the section, there is no doubt that the moment the minder touches the rider or his bike, it's a 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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