mcman56 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Looking at the Evo manual, there are 3 special tools required to get the crankshaft out; primary gear puller, motor shaft puller and special primary tool. The two pullers look not to difficult to make but the special primary tool would be a big challenge. Are these tools really needed or would other methods work? Is that special tool steel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Bigger hammer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterschnecke Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) I can give you a hint how not to do it I tried to remove the inner clutch case and also didn't have had a special primary tool. As you can see in the pictures this does not work.(I wanted to replace the inner clutch case anyway) Maybe it would have been better to make the special primary tool out of old clutch plates but it is to late now and i am just going to use an impact wrench. Edited July 16, 2013 by peterschnecke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Does anyone sell the special tool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Which one? To spread the cases? You should be able to with a little effort with out tools. Or small sheet of flat steel, attach simple puller, drill holes to match case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) I mean the odd tool with teeth for removing and retorquing the clutch hub and primary gear. Edited July 16, 2013 by mcman56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Looks like a proper job for a 3/8 rattle gun to me. Should take them right off. Scribe the nuts and shafts prior to removal so you can take them back to proper position or slightly beyond for proper torque upon reinstallation as they are somewhat torque critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I have not seen a mechanic use a clutch holder in 30 years. You need air tools is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totty79 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mains electric and even some cordless Impact wrenches work fine. I use one of these http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?id=20&method=mViewProduct&productid=14216 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) I have a 1/2" impact gun and have used it for removing similar things. I have always used a torque wrench for replacement. Are you saying you use the impact gun for installation? How do you avoid over torquing and/ or breaking things? Edited July 17, 2013 by mcman56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlrmark Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Reread post #7 Cope explains it. Some people use a dab of paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 I have a 1/2" impact gun and have used it for removing similar things. I have always used a torque wrench for replacement. Are you saying you use the impact gun for installation? How do you avoid over torquing and/ or breaking things? This is why I said a 3/8 gun. However a poor 3/8 gun may not be up to the task. A 1/2 will do, yet great caution should be used while whatching yhe index marks you made CLOSELY! Some guns have poor triggers and controllability. Use caution and common sense here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0007 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 If you leave all of the clutch plates in and pressure plate removed you can apply some load to the plates with your finger Not enough to use a torque wrench but it will keep the hub from spinning while you hit the nut with an impact gun You need to be careful about knocking the dogs off transmission gears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted September 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 The crank gear has a tapered ID and is attached by a bolt to a tapered shaft. There are no location features like a Woodruff Key. This little gizmo worked great. Even at 120 NM, the tool looked fine when done. http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0427/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwester Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) The crank gear has a tapered ID and is attached by a bolt to a tapered shaft. There are no location features like a Woodruff Key. This little gizmo worked great. Even at 120 NM, the tool looked fine when done. http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0427/ Do you need a tool to take off the primary gear or does it pull off by hand after the bolt in undone? My bikes a 2007 Rev 3 250 Edited October 23, 2013 by southwester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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