broony Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Riding round the garden today on the C15 and had to reverse the bike in gear with the clutch pulled in and it wouldn't go backwards unless it was in neutral.The clutch is fine and clears all the gears,is this normal????.I have never noticed this before (recently changed gearbox camplate with upgraded part,gear change is fine),could it be something to do with the kickstart/pawl as it's action now seems further forward than it used to be. cheers the noo Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Never heard of that Brian, can you push it forward in neutral ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broony Posted December 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Ross,no problem in neutral.It only happens when in gear and trying to manoeuvre the bike backwards with the clutch in.The only thing I thought it might be is the kick start as its on the end of the transmission. I'll strip the outer casing off tomorrow and have a look. Are you going to Drumcarrow on Sunday? cheers the noo Brian Edited December 6, 2013 by broony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetom Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I had a similar problem that turned out to be that the rear wheel was out of line and the chain was trying to ride over the rear sprocket, stopping the wheel. I know you said it only happens in gear but worth a look ( it only happened when going backwards) Edited December 6, 2013 by davetom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broony Posted December 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Will have a look at that first. cheers the noo Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Good suggestion from davetom, that also happened to me, chain was on top of sprocket making it really tight. Now run with the snail cams 1 out from side to side. Probably going to Bedlington trial on Sunday Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broony Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Up the shed tonight,checked the gearbox and shift all seems ok. Can anyone with a C15(dizzy motor) see if they can have the bike in gear(1st will do) work the clutch and see if the bike can be pushed backwards in gear with the clutch in(freewheel).Mines locks up trying to do this(never noticed this before and not good if stuck on a section).They may all do this ?????? cheers the noo Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetom Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Does it still lock up if the rear wheel is off the floor? Mine only locked up if I was sat on it ( ie in a trial) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broony Posted December 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hi Davetom with the bike on the paddock stand and wheel in the air it locks up,I can turn the wheel forwards but not backwards,think it has something to do with the kickstart pawl as its on the end of 1st gear. cheers the noo Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broony Posted December 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Problem solved ,found out what was causing the problem. The kickstart return spring retaining screw holds a stop plate on the inner cover never noticed it had fell out. the stop plate was lying at the back of the gearbox.The screw was never tight and I thought it was stripped in the cover.Lesson learned . cheers the noo Brian Edited December 14, 2013 by broony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetom Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Glad you've solved it, something else to look out for.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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