nelly1 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 ive always liked the look of them never ridden one how do they compare to a ty175 or 250 thanks neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Easy to ride , Tough as nails , and with a few simple mods , perform quite well on the cheap .. And I haven't riden a ty in ages , 'cept for my kids ty80 .... Edited December 13, 2013 by axulsuv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 I think the truth is they aren't that good - as standard. Modified they are better,but there are still better twinshock bikes around. Yes they are reliable,but I find they don't steer too well,esp compared to a Yam or Fantic. And the other thing is the engine,the two strokes are much easier to ride and less likely to stall,although the TLR200 is much better than the TLR250 in not stalling.As standard the clutch was rubbish,but is easily sorted. The two best things about them is they way look and the way they sound - but neither helps much in cleaning a section... A TY175 or better still a 250 is a better bike to ride if you are comparing bog stock bikes,not much steers and grips better than a TY250. But then I might be biased,and its only my opinion.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewtus Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Can't speak for the UK specTLR's, but the American spec TLR's (Reflexes) are.....challenging. Heavy, slow, not really geared correctly, but cheap and (at least they used to be) plentiful. Stone-axe reliable also. TLR's will take an amazing amount of abuse and keep going. Try that with a mid-80's Spanish bike and, well...... I guess it all depends on what you want out of the bike. If you want to "get your feet wet" in Vintage Trials, then the TLR is not a bad choice. If you are already an accomplished Trials rider and serious, I'd look at either heavily modifying the TLR or choosing a "real" Trialer from the same era. You decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_t Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 I enjoy mine for farting around on... but not really a trials bike. I only ride it a few times a year and really should sell it (kind of hoped my wife or kids would take an interest in it but that didn't happen). It typically starts up second kick and you really can't kill it. It runs great and pretty hard to stall even at really low speed. I am a little over 6ft so it isn't great for sitting on, I would strongly suggest you see how it fits you before buying one. There is a website that you can get all sorts of farkles for it http://www.bjracing.com/tlr200.html but mine is pretty much stock and runs fine. If you are really interested in doing some trials I would suggest getting a modern trials bike. If you are just looking for cheap transportation that is really good fun to ride the TLR is a good choice. I should note that I have been taking a keen look at the OSSA explorer and Sherco X-ride as a modern day replacement for the TLR . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelly1 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 i think il change my mind then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 I've only ridden a TLR 200 in one trial, it had been loaned to me, and my overriding impression was how similar it felt weight wise to the (only slightly modified) Enfield that I would normally have borrowed. But other people's results can't be argued with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelly1 Posted December 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 so i guess its like a pre 65 but bomb proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) so i guess its like a pre 65 but bomb proof If you want pre 65 feeling with japanese quality, try TL250, I love the big iron... A TLR200 is much easier to ride, very smooth engine, not for high level rider who wants to be winners, but for having fun for normal people.... A Fantic200 is cheaper, better and has more power, but if you once tested the little fourstroke, you will know why so many people love it... Edited December 15, 2013 by hendrik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mont315 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) I've had one for about 3.5 years now absolutely bullet prof engine but keep the oil changed regular as the cam runs in the head not on bearings and once a tear clean the oil spinner out, as for mods the main one is repositioning the footrest down and back about 25mm as for altering the steering angle unless your riding on harder routes don't bother. I've fitted 400mm betor gas shocks to mine and I find they work well for £100 shocks plus being longer than the standard 200 ones it raises the rear a little making the steering a little better, I use 5w or 7.5w oil in the forks and 10/44 sprockets. yes there are better t/s bikes out there but reliability wise you better a TLR http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/gallery/image/3549-tlr-200/ Edited December 15, 2013 by mont315 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewtus Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) i think il change my mind then It was not my intention to completey change your mind. Just reporting my experiences. In all honesty, I enjoy competing on my 'Flex, otherwise known as OJ. Silly-assed build/rant here - http://www.advrider....ad.php?t=562129 Take your time. 'Tis a long story, with many distractions along the way. The TLR really does have a long Trials history, much more in your country than mine. You good folks In the UK have the advantage of having a more solid aftermarket support following for these things than we do here, and believe me that's a big plus. Try one if you get the chance, and make your decision from there. Edited December 17, 2013 by brewtus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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