nigel dabster Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 If its an Aprillia watercooled bike its a fiddle machine which shouldn't be allowed under normal circumstances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 If its an Aprillia watercooled bike its a fiddle machine which shouldn't be allowed under normal circumstances? At least it's not under weight, unlike yours ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Well ive just been talking to someone who said raga had a lump of lead a few years back so may follow his lead, pun intended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 If its an Aprillia watercooled bike its a fiddle machine which shouldn't be allowed under normal circumstances? Normal circumstances ?? I've lost track of what they are these days I think conversations go along the lines of " I want to ride twinshock trials, so I'm going to buy an air-cooled mono and stick 2 shocks on it, or I'm going to buy a twinshock and then modify it to such an extent that it bears no resemblance to the bike it started out as". Because, " I need a highly modified twinshock because modern classic trials are so difficult that a standard twinshock can't clean the sections" Of the latter, someone point me in the direction of the classic trial that has sections as hard as the '70s Superstars trial that has been posted on here, or a typical early 80s British championship round. Anyway Dabster - when are you going to notice the hydraulic clutch on that SWM.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Fed up with this blatant abuse, we all know a certain well placed SWM last year from the Westmorland round on in the Normandale was basically similar to the above, the fact the rider would have won on a standard swm seems to have escaped reason. Anyway ive heard that the normandale twinshock class is to revert to the easier route which is great news as far as I can see, and should negate the use of these fiddle machines and at least give me a chance on my AG Italjet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Look forward to seeing the Italjet out. Someone rides one in the Perce Simon Miller round every year, a nice one too. Be good to see another one. I didn't know anything about the class changes to the Normandales until I got the regs for the Phil King. There's a twinshock class on both the hard and easy route now although on the hard route, the twinshocks and air-cooled monos are in the same class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Good news, not doing the phil king but will hopefully do northallerton, pictures soon of italjet............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 How can twin shocks and air cooled mono' s compete on a level playing field ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Warning *wrong forum alert* Warning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 How can twin shocks and air cooled mono' s compete on a level playing field ? Well you get a mono that looks like or is an update of a twinshock, fantics have a few options and aprillias as above can be made to look like twinshocks, modify frame get some really good suspension and hey presto its not much different in performance, and looks like the bike above for added fiddle fit very late forks like beta rev 3 or similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 What made you assume I was referring the the twin shock being at a disadvantage ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Chronology and logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginald Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 While I'm a fan of standard bikes [read - I couldn't modify them if my life depended on it] the work dave 444 did and his blog site are great stuff and guess what ? he owns it - so he can do whatever he likes to them!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 £6k ? Lucky if they got the asking price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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